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so further with the bmw/carfax stuff.

i read that bmw won't slap CPO on a car that hasn't been regularly maintained...

cpo cars with no service marks on carfax right off of bmw's website:

https://www.bmwusa.com/certified-preowned-search.html#/detail/WBA8E1G39HNU16585






here's one that has a bunch of service:

 

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i don't think anyone or any entity needs to report anything to carfax.
Agreed, but the insurance companies do, and if you make a police report of an accident it shows. Car dealers is due to the dealers management system they use in house.

Independent repair shops also show up on carfax, not sure if itā€™s a setting marked by shop owner, but AllData tracks the vins and service data and reports it.
 

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Agreed, but the insurance companies do, and if you make a police report of an accident it shows. Car dealers is due to the dealers management system they use in house.

Independent repair shops also show up on carfax, not sure if itā€™s a setting marked by shop owner, but AllData tracks the vins and service data and reports it.


again, not necessarily.

my 2013 truck had it's entire passenger side repainted on an insurance claim that was not on carfax.

i hit a deer and the front end got redone, and same insurance, same shop, that was on carfax.

my truck had 5k in hail damage repaired, same shop, same insurance. that also did not show up iirc.



independent repair shops can show up they don't always.
 

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Could only think that insurance companies not reporting due to liabilities of the repair? And want no responsibility down the road.


no

i think you're thinking about this wrong, no one, or no entity has any duty/requirement to report to carfax, carfax finds shit out their carfax ways.

insurance company's have behind the scenes shit we've talked about in other threads that is far more detailed/comprehensive than carfax
 
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only issue is, then what :rofl:
I was looking at leasing a new Ram Rebel or GMC AT4, but the wife is providing some resistance, which she should because I've had my Ram for 3.5 years and only put 35k on it. I have a company car too, so I don't really need a new truck, but c'mon woman! Interesting part was that I rolled $9k of negative equity into this truck because I had a Lincoln with an interior water leak that no one could find and I was tired of throwing money/time at it and I needed a reliable vehicle for work that could haul my demo gear. So I snagged on the Ram as a left over 2017 model for $15k off of MSRP, and now I'm right side up. Gotta be a first for me :ROFLMAO:
 

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I was looking at leasing a new Ram Rebel or GMC AT4, but the wife is providing some resistance, which she should because I've had my Ram for 3.5 years and only put 35k on it. I have a company car too, so I don't really need a new truck, but c'mon woman! Interesting part was that I rolled $9k of negative equity into this truck because I had a Lincoln with an interior water leak that no one could find and I was tired of throwing money/time at it and I needed a reliable vehicle for work that could haul my demo gear. So I snagged on the Ram as a left over 2017 model for $15k off of MSRP, and now I'm right side up. Gotta be a first for me :ROFLMAO:
Vroom just got back to me and hit me at $31,500 o_O I paid $37,500 for it almost 4 years ago. WTF do I do now?
 
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The question remains. "Now what?" This is my only vehicle and Megan wants a newer-ish vehicle so she's not driving the Cherokee everywhere.

I think I just solved my own question.
How much do you drive?

Can confirm you won't be able to lease an SUV for any reasonable price, but on new vehicles you can still get decent incentives to purchase if you're not too picky and you buy from inventory. They're not great incentives because inventory is low, but not terrible either. You can also still get pretty low interest rates, 2%ish for 60.

Carvana is DUMPING money in to their new business by buying these cars up at top dollar, driving the used market up even more. I really don't know who buys these cars from them, and I 100% don't know how carmax sells anything. When I was at the dealer yesterday the salesman pulled up all of carmax's jettas for sale just for the hell of it. Literally dozens of jettas with 10-30k miles were posted at the exact same dollar amount as the VS dealer lists & sells them for new (about $21k), identical trims, identical everything. I couldn't believe it
 

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How much do you drive?

Can confirm you won't be able to lease an SUV for any reasonable price, but on new vehicles you can still get decent incentives to purchase if you're not too picky and you buy from inventory. They're not great incentives because inventory is low, but not terrible either. You can also still get pretty low interest rates, 2%ish for 60.

Carvana is DUMPING money in to their new business by buying these cars up at top dollar, driving the used market up even more. I really don't know who buys these cars from them, and I 100% don't know how carmax sells anything. When I was at the dealer yesterday the salesman pulled up all of carmax's jettas for sale just for the hell of it. Literally dozens of jettas with 10-30k miles were posted at the exact same dollar amount as the VS dealer lists & sells them for new (about $21k), identical trims, identical everything. I couldn't believe it


i really think it's the trade aspect.

if you go into carmax or a dealer upside down on something, and look at a used jetta for the same price as a new one, im betting you're going to see an awfully favorable trade number on your vehicle as long as you're cool with that used one :rofl:
 

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If u are getting another VW they might match the offer from carvana and u can get a tax credit on 10k

This is exactly what ended up happening. I called told the dealer the details of the car and what Carvana/Vroom offered me and they matched the higher of the 2 plus I got the 10k tax credit. Win/Win since I didn't want to deal with selling private party.
 

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This is exactly what ended up happening. I called told the dealer the details of the car and what Carvana/Vroom offered me and they matched the higher of the 2 plus I got the 10k tax credit. Win/Win since I didn't want to deal with selling private party.

Yea u are good to go when the appraisal comes in within a couple hundred. If vroom/carvana are a few thousand apart then just send it to the higher bidder, the dealer wonā€™t match it. If u have a truck u get a full tax credit at a dealer, so If u have truck look at the numbers of what makes u more money a dealer trade in or carvana/vroom buy out.
 
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How much do you drive?

Can confirm you won't be able to lease an SUV for any reasonable price, but on new vehicles you can still get decent incentives to purchase if you're not too picky and you buy from inventory. They're not great incentives because inventory is low, but not terrible either. You can also still get pretty low interest rates, 2%ish for 60.

Carvana is DUMPING money in to their new business by buying these cars up at top dollar, driving the used market up even more. I really don't know who buys these cars from them, and I 100% don't know how carmax sells anything. When I was at the dealer yesterday the salesman pulled up all of carmax's jettas for sale just for the hell of it. Literally dozens of jettas with 10-30k miles were posted at the exact same dollar amount as the VS dealer lists & sells them for new (about $21k), identical trims, identical everything. I couldn't believe it
She'd be getting some SUV (~10-14 4Runner most likely) and I'd literally just take over the Cherokee. Full send it. The glaring obvious reason I don't get rid of the Raptor is because it's my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. I fucked up once and sold my first one, so I repented and got the 2nd one. She'd legitimately kill me if I got rid of this Raptor, she loves it more than I do.
 

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Yea u are good to go when the appraisal comes in within a couple hundred. If vroom/carvana are a few thousand apart then just send it to the higher bidder, the dealer wonā€™t match it. If u have a truck u get a full tax credit at a dealer, so If u have truck look at the numbers of what makes u more money a dealer trade in or carvana/vroom buy out.

They told me it was over a 1k difference, but then again, car dealers aren't known for their upright honestly.

My credit score was 783 last night and magically when I got a low priced "term protection" and "maintenance plan" my APR went down almost 2 full points. Shady AF, but my payment only went up $4 and I was able to get all my maintence through 4/40k covered plus a few other trivial things.
 

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Problem is, there's nothing out there available. I looked for new Rams, Dad-150's, and GMC's within 50 miles, and I think I found 9-ish of each... plus the lease deals aren't that great. I hardly ever drive the truck, so a 10k/yr lease works, and by leasing I won't be totally fucked if the market corrects in another year or so since I can walk away after 3 years. I won't consider a purchase in this situation. If I do upgrade I obviously want all of the things I didn't get in my 2017 which puts me in 65-70k truck territory, ugh.
 
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