Movie Star Wars Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker *SPOILERS*

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Midichlorians, while you can make fun of the concept, at least is consistent within the PT. They were just trying to hammer home the point that there are some who are stronger in the force and that it has a metric. They used this to establish that Anakin is the most naturally strong in the force, ever. Something they held consistently throughout the PT.

Stormtroopers in the PT were trained clones. That was the entire basis of the Clone Wars. By the OT time, they were no longer clones, and weren't as well trained. Again, this isn't a stretch explanation and it makes sense.

Yoda could obviously use the force to manipulate his movements. Which he uses when he needs to fight. Plausible explanation that isn't ridiculous.

Anakin never lived at that farm. His mother lived there after he left. They explicitly state why Vader would never go back to Tattoine.

Which random characters had no effect on the plot that you think is so egregious?

Now let's get to the ROS.

Palpatine somehow shows up out of nowhere, even though he died. This only happened because Rian Johnson let the villian of the ST inexplicably die in the middle of the 2nd film. So JJ went with nostalgia.

Jedi/Sith are now Gods. No one can hurt them, and even if they do, they can just heal or resurrect each other. Force Lightning is now strong enough to take out 1000s of ships. Palps turned into a hybrid of Shang Tsung and Thor. Stormtroopers killed a majority of the Jedi during Order 66. They can be killed in the PT. In the ST they are invincible. Ridiculous.

They made Rey a Palpatine to explain her being Mary Sue, and the most powerful being in the history of story telling. The problem is that this directly undermines the entire concept of Anakin being the chosen one. Apparently Palps was the most powerful being all along. Sooo why did he need Anakin on his side? Why not just single handedly kill them all himself? Palps knew Anakin was too strong for him, and he was vulnerable. That's why he turned him. Except not anymore.

Palps still being alive and still building an empire destroys the overall arc of both the OT and PT. The story was about Vader being the chosen one, turning to the dark side, and eventually fulfilling his destiny by *destroying* the Sith. By both him and Palps dying on the 2nd death star, the prophecy is fulfilled. PSYCHHHHH Palps never died and Anakins story is now *meaningless*.

I could go on and on. They need to take like 5 years off then make a trilogy that states and makes canon that these movies never happened.

Not been ignoring this, just haven't had time to respond. Saving this post for future response
 

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Saw this yesterday. I briefly ran through what others posted and agree with Mook's statements on much of it.

As a standalone film not bad and definitely not the worst was at least worth the money for 2 tickets etc. As part of the ending of the whole series just to horrible to explain in detail. Others have already hit the nail on the random plot twists that make no sense.
 
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So we just saw it. I liked it as a movie. My son loved it. While I won't disagree with much of what has been posted in terms of the plot shotfalls, maybe it was just my pre-conceived viewpoints.

One thing I didn't have an issue with was Hux being the mole. So many complained about it, but after being asked by Finn, "Why?", he explained that he wasn't interested in the Resistance being successful, rather he wanted to see Kylo Ren fail. This doesn't surprise me, nor should it anyone else. He and Kylo have been in a power struggle this entire trilogy and have been at each others throats. So this doesn't shock me and makes a lot of sense. I DO agree though, that how he was killed, much like Phasma, could've been better handled. Maybe a little more pomp and circumstance around it would've helped.
 

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One thing that kind of sticks out the more you think about it....ep 9 made it a point to humanize storm troopers by telling the audience that they are just young adults that were taken as kids to become drones in an army...no longer clones....they spend an entire scene talking about that.....................and then they show Finn and Poe mowing down storm troopers without a second thought, Finn especially :rofl:
 
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Just posting this here. If you feel it warrants a new thread, then I'm ok with that, but here is a timeline for all things Star Wars.

 

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This is 2 hours and most wont watch because it just eviscerates the movie (and shows how poorly written these movies were, especially 9) but its worth skipping around.



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I can't argue with a lot of those points. Some of them I didn't even think of. This trilogy really did mess up a lot of the original and prequel stuff.
 
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