3800 FS: ZZP Baseball Cap

J.E.T.

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I realize you are upset because you've spent some money but we have taken care of you pretty well IMHO.

Yes, spending $4,000 ('rebuilds', towing, lodging, Monster drinks, Cheetos) can get anyone upset. I placed myself in this predicament, so I have only myself to blame. Well, maybe not. Whatever the case, I have learned my lesson.

I still argue that the LSD is not the cause of the tranny failure. However, I have no authority to claim this as fact. Hence, the LSD and filter will be sent to Intense to be examined. There is actually a feel good story that goes along with this which I will quickly tell. ZZP gave me Intense's phone number to call and find out if they will warranty their LSD. I left a message in a machine saying I'm a ZZP customer who is in Grand Rapids with a LSD question. Low and behold, I get a call back from Scott (voice mail) - saying he'll do the best he can to help and then leaves me his cell phone number. I was just shocked he gave out his cell number! I've been asking Zoomer for his number so we can straighten all this out - to no avail. I understand Zoomers situation though. Private (cell number) and business numbers should be separated. Anyway, Scott will examine the LSD.

In retrospect, I wish ZZP would have voiced out against any part in this car that he didn't see fit. This car is a COMPLETE ZZP build (Zoomers own hands, I assume) from the engine to trans. To rattle off a few: ZZP Stg2 TB, Stg2 IC, VS, heads, race PCM w/ICCU, ZZP trans (ahemmm...). The only foreign part in there is the Intense LSD. On the second trans rebuild, it would have been nice to pull me over and say - hey, I just rebuilt your trans but it has an Intense LSD in it which (quote) "We do not warranty intense differentials or the damage they cause. The intense dif is the #1 liability in a trans as far as we are concerned and therefore we will not warranty damage related to their use."

I took some high res pics of the LSD. Zoomer, it might be beneficial for you to see them - since you didnt get a chance to see it yourself. You can see them here:High res pics of diagnosed failed Intense LSD

J.E.T.
 

gtphale

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thats cause they hide that kind of thing Right Mike???? This has been a downfall of Intense and ZZP for along time. Did you know there is a problem with running the Three layer mls gaskets on a daily driver?? Bet you didn't but they just want you to drop the 100 plus dollars on them.
 

Mike K

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Please refrain from turning this forum into Club GP. It's sobering enough to post there. I hate to see the same crap here.

I'm sure all Ed wants is to get his transmission back in working order in an ammicable amount of time. Zooomer will do what he deems fit, Intense will check out the differential, and the parties involved will resolve the issue if there is indeed an issue.

The rest of this is just cluttering up the forum.
 

Fish

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Zooomer, at that present moment in time, we did not know what we do now. You kinda want to believe the company you are buying parts from and believe they last. Now that Big Jeff is comming out with this stuff, it is easier to point fingers.

I personally will extend my apology to you and ZZP.
 

CoolGTX

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Originally posted by zooomer@Mar 8 2005, 09:35 AM
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=20...tmode=1&smode=1

Now perhaps you guys understand my frustration on this job. As a business owner trying to take care of a problem that wasn't ours and getting flamed on this club, it was very frustrating. That link above discusses exactly what happened to this differential.
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you were right... :banghead: we were lied to all along(by ALL OF THEM!).. :dontknow: I hope the Brinks truck is backing in now, cause i'm sure you will need it soon..$$$$$$$$$$$$ :lolsign:

The one time I didnt listen to Charles.. :banghead: :banghead:
 

GTPHales-Wife

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Originally posted by gtphale@Mar 25 2005, 10:18 PM
No longer affiliated with any 3800 company



lol told you not to do it... Takes all the fun out of it,and the small guys always get burned on it. The 3800 community is nothing but a bunch of scam artist and crooks.So glad I got out of the game a year ago.
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ME TOO!!!!! :lolsign: :headbang:
 
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