3800 Saturn ION Red Line

[mybluegtp]

Did anyone hear about this?

http://www.saturn.com/aboutus2/news/pressstory3.jsp

Click to read more...

 

[00 GTP Debadged]

Seen one at the Chicago Auto show. The Saturn guy was trying to tell me how fast it was. I was looking at this tiny little blower and laughing to myself...

Randy

 

[I-Dom-In-8]

Originally posted by 00 GTP Debaged@Apr 17 2004, 11:12 PM
Seen one at the Chicago Auto show. The Saturn guy was trying to tell me how fast it was. I was looking at this tiny little blower and laughing to myself...

Randy

yeah but he weights almost hlaf of what you do also. There suppose to run high 14s stock.

 

[syP]

still a saturn

 

[VHGTP]

i have heard that this ecotec engine that GM is using now is the real deal for performance applications. it can handle a ton of horsepower on stock internals and still be very reliable in the long run. i also heard that they are using the same blower as on a GTP is this true??

 

[mybluegtp]

Originally posted by VHGTP@Apr 18 2004, 02:21 AM
i also heard that they are using the same blower as on a GTP is this true??

Well it says that its running an Eaton Blower but not sure if its a M90.

Those saturns are going to be fast, and they are also dependable. I havnt heard any bad things about saturns.

 

[imported_Diavolo]

probably using an M62 blower

 

[sweetness]

its is an m62

 

[Royalgtp]

I belive GM uses that ECOTEC platform on some of thier race engines.....

 

[Kyle]

Originally posted by syP@Apr 18 2004, 12:16 AM
still a saturn

You'll be saying that when you see it tails too.


GM is finally following suit though on the sport compact idea though. Which i think is a good call on their part. Altough why does gm love the sc so much? I mean when going for that market a turbo seems like a better idea to me plus it just seems like a turbo would produce ALOT more power on a little motor like that.

I have no problem with saturns personally. Dont forget there syp saturn is owned by the same company that your gp is.

 

[syP]

yes... GM owns alot of things... its still a saturn.

 

[Kyle]

I've yet to hear one bad thing about them. And besides its just another J body I believe. which checy and pontiac also build on.

 

[syP]

Im wondering.. like most saturns, is this car still really fuel efficient? although it is pushing 200+ hp.

 

[VHGTP]

Originally posted by Kyle@Apr 18 2004, 04:39 PM
I've yet to hear one bad thing about them. And besides its just another J body I believe. which checy and pontiac also build on.

i am not to sure but aren't the new Ions built on some new corporate platform... cause Chevy is comming out with the Cobalt SS which is the replacement for the Cavalier and i thought the ION is on the same platform as that. the Cobalt SS is gonna have the same S/C'd engine as in the ION Red Line except its gonna look much better than the Saturn. The GM race car that uses the Ecotec has like 900 hp i think!! it runs 8's in the ¼!

 

[dsk727]

http://www.ilgpc.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=2537

has a bit of info

 

[J.E.T.]

The company also uses Ecotec engines in its factory front-drive drag racing program, where in turbocharged form it develops a whopping 1000 hp. Further, a modified Ecotec pow-er-ed an Ion Redline to a land-speed record at Bonneville last year (AW, Oct. 27, 2003). That car went 212.684 mph in the G/Blown Fuel Altered class, with longtime GM engineer Jim Minneker at the wheel

1000hp on factory internals... I wonder... not likely, right?

J.E.T.

 

[RareGMFan]

Originally posted by J.E.T.@Apr 19 2004, 01:09 PM
1000hp on factory internals... I wonder... not likely, right?

I believe the Cavalier that the late Lingenfelter had his tragic accident in was 900 hp running on stock internals. I've read in several places that the Ecotech is capable of this. GM was quite serious when putting this motor together.

 

[BumpinGTP]

yes... GM owns alot of things... its still a saturn.

its still faster than your gt

 

[Fish]

Is it faster than mine???

 

[VHGTP]

Originally posted by Fish@Apr 19 2004, 07:37 PM
Is it faster than mine???

yep

 

[mybluegtp]

this would be an intresting car to see what it does at the track. I myself would not mind having one of these.

 

[syP]

Originally posted by BumpinGTP@Apr 19 2004, 08:18 PM

yes... GM owns alot of things... its still a saturn.

its still faster than your gt

its still a frickin saturn... even if a civic was faster.. its still a civic.

 

[Fish]

Originally posted by VHGTP+Apr 19 2004, 07:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VHGTP @ Apr 19 2004, 07:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Fish@Apr 19 2004, 07:37 PM
Is it faster than mine???

yep [/b][/quote]
I dont know. High 14s could be anything. 14.9999999999.

Who knows. Until there are definate numbers out there, I wont be too scared.

 

[BumpinGTP]

I dont know. High 14s could be anything. 14.9999999999.

high 14s will always be faster than low 15s, lol :lol:

 

[syP]

faster in what sense?

weight to rate ratio??

how much do those weigh anyways?