3800 Yes! Discount for Chi owners!
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ScreaminBlack6
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I don't want to start anything over here guys. I just want to ask a couple questions.
First off, I would like to mention that I was a registered CGPC member before the split, but I wasn't active. Therefore, all I know about what happened is what I've read and heard.
But I would like to ask this, what is the problem with Scott trying to get the word out about CGPC's new sponser?? If I remember correctly, there was a post just a few days later by ILGPC members about your new sponser. Lately, all I've seen is ILGPC copying everything that CGPC is doing. Wether it be just a huge coincidence or not......who looks desperate?
We are all here for a common purpose and what's going on between these two clubs is rediculous. We all share a common interest, cars in general and the Grand Prix specifically. A group with common interests always benefits from combining their forces for the better of the group.
I know you all see things differently because of an on-going dispute over god knows what. I bet half of you couldn't even tell me why the split and why it's lasted so long.
You complain that he posted through the forums to get the word out to the Chicagoland GPers as well as those who are members of the Chicago Grand Prix Club. Yet, when the ILGPC's thread about their sponser got 2 posts below the CGPC thread, it had to be TTTed. Why is their so much competition?
I mean come on!!! Everyone has the same goals here. We all want fast, sweet looking rides. It's been a common goal that has been shared throughout the GP community. That's why Mike N. started the club in the first place. An in-state rivalry does nothing but hurt the community and it's members.
All in all, I think this thread is childish. You call something "desperate" when in fact if the same opportunities were given to you by Intense, you would probably treat it the same way he did. Sure Scott wants to get more members.......who doesn't? I see so many posts on clubgp.com from ILGPC members trying to recruit. Is that "desperate"?? NO!! It's the job of the community to recruit. However, the competition and fighting over members does not reflect well on the IL Grand Prix owners, wether they be members of CGPC, ILGPC or both.
I may have more to say later, but that sums up most of it. I feel it's time for everyone to put aside their differences and reunite to make the best regional grand prix club around.
First off, I would like to mention that I was a registered CGPC member before the split, but I wasn't active. Therefore, all I know about what happened is what I've read and heard.
But I would like to ask this, what is the problem with Scott trying to get the word out about CGPC's new sponser?? If I remember correctly, there was a post just a few days later by ILGPC members about your new sponser. Lately, all I've seen is ILGPC copying everything that CGPC is doing. Wether it be just a huge coincidence or not......who looks desperate?
We are all here for a common purpose and what's going on between these two clubs is rediculous. We all share a common interest, cars in general and the Grand Prix specifically. A group with common interests always benefits from combining their forces for the better of the group.
I know you all see things differently because of an on-going dispute over god knows what. I bet half of you couldn't even tell me why the split and why it's lasted so long.
You complain that he posted through the forums to get the word out to the Chicagoland GPers as well as those who are members of the Chicago Grand Prix Club. Yet, when the ILGPC's thread about their sponser got 2 posts below the CGPC thread, it had to be TTTed. Why is their so much competition?
I mean come on!!! Everyone has the same goals here. We all want fast, sweet looking rides. It's been a common goal that has been shared throughout the GP community. That's why Mike N. started the club in the first place. An in-state rivalry does nothing but hurt the community and it's members.
All in all, I think this thread is childish. You call something "desperate" when in fact if the same opportunities were given to you by Intense, you would probably treat it the same way he did. Sure Scott wants to get more members.......who doesn't? I see so many posts on clubgp.com from ILGPC members trying to recruit. Is that "desperate"?? NO!! It's the job of the community to recruit. However, the competition and fighting over members does not reflect well on the IL Grand Prix owners, wether they be members of CGPC, ILGPC or both.
I may have more to say later, but that sums up most of it. I feel it's time for everyone to put aside their differences and reunite to make the best regional grand prix club around.
OMG I am going to have fun with this....
First off this is crap...
YOU ARE NOT EVEN A MEMBER HERE... WHY ARE YOU EVEN READING THIS? I could really care less about what you think because you are not even a member!
Next,
Who the hell are you anyways?? I think you neglet to know most of all the fully active members here WERE the CGPC, and did go through the break up. I was there, so where were you?? You were watching on the forum maybe? Then you really have no clue then.
And,
Umm this is just retarded... The point was already made inthe midwest forum, why the hell would the nationwide forum care that they cannot even benefit fromthe discount? And we are copying you!!! LMFAO!!!
We had three sponsers before your one! We just obtained INTENSE after talks long before your "Sponser" came along. You wouldn't even have that sponser for your ten member club unless you werent friends witht the Michigan club.
And yes, you do only have 10 members.. I could care less about how many have registered on your site... how many of those do you actually see?? lol
Majority of your site is PRE 97 GP's anyways... I dont think the GP store even sells products for you guys other than thermostats and trans coolers.
To sum this up, like I said, I posted this here, hate it if you will, but I didn't go over and post this on your forum. I have no intention of thinking we are in need of uniting with ten people who previously before were manipulating, and started crap like what you just did in our club.
Have fun with your Sponser!
First off this is crap...
YOU ARE NOT EVEN A MEMBER HERE... WHY ARE YOU EVEN READING THIS? I could really care less about what you think because you are not even a member!
Next,
Who the hell are you anyways?? I think you neglet to know most of all the fully active members here WERE the CGPC, and did go through the break up. I was there, so where were you?? You were watching on the forum maybe? Then you really have no clue then.
And,
Umm this is just retarded... The point was already made inthe midwest forum, why the hell would the nationwide forum care that they cannot even benefit fromthe discount? And we are copying you!!! LMFAO!!!
We had three sponsers before your one! We just obtained INTENSE after talks long before your "Sponser" came along. You wouldn't even have that sponser for your ten member club unless you werent friends witht the Michigan club.
And yes, you do only have 10 members.. I could care less about how many have registered on your site... how many of those do you actually see?? lol
Majority of your site is PRE 97 GP's anyways... I dont think the GP store even sells products for you guys other than thermostats and trans coolers.
To sum this up, like I said, I posted this here, hate it if you will, but I didn't go over and post this on your forum. I have no intention of thinking we are in need of uniting with ten people who previously before were manipulating, and started crap like what you just did in our club.
Have fun with your Sponser!
But what parts are discounted? The links only take you to CGPC's home page. Oh Well. From the way this thread is going. looks like it could be interesting. Besides, we had a 30 plus car mod day in January, following an ice storm. I doubt anyone can top that for a club getting together for a good time. I look forward to seeing this summer and just having a good time with everyone here.
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ScreaminBlack6
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See.....that was just dumb Blitzu. I came here just to spread some light on what I see. I believe I typed "I was not an active member during the breakup, so all I know is what I've read and heard through other people". Don't question something that was plainly stated....it makes you look like an idiot.
My post was made with the upmost reguard for class and stature. I did not post to belittle....I did not post to cause trouble as I said. I was merely stating my opinion on the whole matter.
I live in Illinois and there are 2 clubs. There are many members here that are both active ILGPC members as well as CGPC members. Why is it wrong for me to join? Isn't that what you've been trying to do since the split from CGPC and the start of ILGPC?? Haven't you been trying to recruit members?? So now that there is another one here you are going to ask me why I am here? Are you going to turn me away? That doesn't say much for this club.
I don't care what went down with whoever. I don't care how much shit you are full of or the other members here or at CGPC. Everyone probably has their own warped and twisted stories and I don't care. That is not what my post was about.
It's amazing how defensive you get when someone comes in, not even trying to stir up trouble. You see that I am defending CGPC and you get your panties up in a bunch and start bitching and trying to take cheap shots at me and my post. However, I don't see one of your arguments that hold up. If you would have read the post with an open mind, instead of with a distaste for anyone affiliated with CGPC, then you would have understood what I was saying.
Can you explain to me what the point of 2 clubs is? That's what I'm asking of you right now. Why are their 2 clubs with an identicle interest so close together. As I said before, so much could be gained by the efforts of everyone together. However, none of you see it that way. Your immature minds steer towards the chance at conflict and you stand strong with your stubborn thoughts and unjust hate of a community YOU were once a part of. Most of this club was once a part of single community in the Chicago area.
One quote I remember from workin in a Union....."United we stand, divided we beg". You see ILGPC moving forward and making progress as a Grand Prix Community, and that's great. However, United......a Grand Prix Club, using all of it's resources could very well make the community stronger.
Open minds and open hearts for forgiveness and understanding.
Lastly, you ask who I am. My name is Justin and I just bought a Black fully loaded 2000 GTP. I also have a '94 Grand Prix SE that is currently for sale. I have gone as GPimp31 and SlowShowGP31 on the forums. With that said, open your eyes and see what's their. Don't think that I haven't talked to Scott numerous times. If you will notice there are points in my posts that reflect both clubs views.
My post was made with the upmost reguard for class and stature. I did not post to belittle....I did not post to cause trouble as I said. I was merely stating my opinion on the whole matter.
I live in Illinois and there are 2 clubs. There are many members here that are both active ILGPC members as well as CGPC members. Why is it wrong for me to join? Isn't that what you've been trying to do since the split from CGPC and the start of ILGPC?? Haven't you been trying to recruit members?? So now that there is another one here you are going to ask me why I am here? Are you going to turn me away? That doesn't say much for this club.
I don't care what went down with whoever. I don't care how much shit you are full of or the other members here or at CGPC. Everyone probably has their own warped and twisted stories and I don't care. That is not what my post was about.
It's amazing how defensive you get when someone comes in, not even trying to stir up trouble. You see that I am defending CGPC and you get your panties up in a bunch and start bitching and trying to take cheap shots at me and my post. However, I don't see one of your arguments that hold up. If you would have read the post with an open mind, instead of with a distaste for anyone affiliated with CGPC, then you would have understood what I was saying.
Can you explain to me what the point of 2 clubs is? That's what I'm asking of you right now. Why are their 2 clubs with an identicle interest so close together. As I said before, so much could be gained by the efforts of everyone together. However, none of you see it that way. Your immature minds steer towards the chance at conflict and you stand strong with your stubborn thoughts and unjust hate of a community YOU were once a part of. Most of this club was once a part of single community in the Chicago area.
One quote I remember from workin in a Union....."United we stand, divided we beg". You see ILGPC moving forward and making progress as a Grand Prix Community, and that's great. However, United......a Grand Prix Club, using all of it's resources could very well make the community stronger.
Open minds and open hearts for forgiveness and understanding.
Lastly, you ask who I am. My name is Justin and I just bought a Black fully loaded 2000 GTP. I also have a '94 Grand Prix SE that is currently for sale. I have gone as GPimp31 and SlowShowGP31 on the forums. With that said, open your eyes and see what's their. Don't think that I haven't talked to Scott numerous times. If you will notice there are points in my posts that reflect both clubs views.
Oh man, its threads like these when I hate being a crossover... 
Being caught in the middle sucks! I just want to be a member of the GP community, I hope those of us who want to be friends with everyone (a.k.a. members of both clubs) can be without discrimination from those who have had problems in the past (which thankfully I have not).
Just my .03 cents, yes one cent more because I am kinda outta the loop and over stepping my "say."
Carry on,
John
Being caught in the middle sucks! I just want to be a member of the GP community, I hope those of us who want to be friends with everyone (a.k.a. members of both clubs) can be without discrimination from those who have had problems in the past (which thankfully I have not).
Just my .03 cents, yes one cent more because I am kinda outta the loop and over stepping my "say."
Carry on,
John
I think I missed this... Contributing Member... $25 dollars... What is that all about? Kinda like ClubGP thing only instead of a badge of honor you get a whole other forum?!Originally posted by blitzu@Feb 11 2004, 01:35 AM
Ill report it later in the contributing member forum and active forum, I don't like prying eyes that dont belong here. But if these prying eyes really really want to read it they are more than welcome to if they donate $25 to the site's maintance
John
Woo Hoo More fun....
Ohh but see, you were. You specifically came here to comment in favor of CGPC, not to join this club. But if your intentions were to join, you did it in a piss poor way.
You want an answer to this??? Well here goes because this as been said before and will be said again and again.
All of CGPC is welcome to join here as one, no one is stopping you, you are all welcome. BUT, there will not be any presidents, no leaders per say, no bickering by the old standards. Club members will respect one another, and will not leave others behind.
That is pretty much it. I say those things because those are all valid reasons of why this club was formed, and why this club has grown and why this club will succeed. Yes, you really have no clue then, but you are welcome here, try next time to enter on a better topic perhaps.
There is plenty more I could on about but I feel compelled not to at this time, but only to say welcome again to the club, but I will understand if you do not stay long.
Ohh but see, you were. You specifically came here to comment in favor of CGPC, not to join this club. But if your intentions were to join, you did it in a piss poor way.
And I was stating what was clear to see, you seem to contradict your self when you call me dumb and a idiot.
Yet you are the first to call me names... real intelligent buddy.
Well you sure came across that way, coming on here starting a new name just to call my thread ...
. You sure got me confused then.
You want an answer to this??? Well here goes because this as been said before and will be said again and again.
All of CGPC is welcome to join here as one, no one is stopping you, you are all welcome. BUT, there will not be any presidents, no leaders per say, no bickering by the old standards. Club members will respect one another, and will not leave others behind.
That is pretty much it. I say those things because those are all valid reasons of why this club was formed, and why this club has grown and why this club will succeed. Yes, you really have no clue then, but you are welcome here, try next time to enter on a better topic perhaps.
There is plenty more I could on about but I feel compelled not to at this time, but only to say welcome again to the club, but I will understand if you do not stay long.
I think I missed this... Contributing Member... $25 dollars... What is that all about? Kinda like ClubGP thing only instead of a badge of honor you get a whole other forum?!Originally posted by emersonhart13+Feb 11 2004, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (emersonhart13 @ Feb 11 2004, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-blitzu@Feb 11 2004, 01:35 AM
Ill report it later in the contributing member forum and active forum, I don't like prying eyes that dont belong here. But if these prying eyes really really want to read it they are more than welcome to if they donate $25 to the site's maintance
John [/b][/quote]
I just said $25 because if they only want to comeon here to argue it has to be worth it right
Oh my....
I wasn't here for the split up of CGPC, but we all chose to be members of our respective clubs for a reason. I like the way this group get's together to have a good time and works on cars. The members and sponsors here are great. This should not turn into a bash fest between the clubs. This topic always builds a feel of tension, so I think restraint should be used if possible. ILGPC is growing, and reputation is good.
So, as a person who met all of you after the split, let this guy go and let's just keep doing what we do best...... Have a good time.
My $.02.
I wasn't here for the split up of CGPC, but we all chose to be members of our respective clubs for a reason. I like the way this group get's together to have a good time and works on cars. The members and sponsors here are great. This should not turn into a bash fest between the clubs. This topic always builds a feel of tension, so I think restraint should be used if possible. ILGPC is growing, and reputation is good.
So, as a person who met all of you after the split, let this guy go and let's just keep doing what we do best...... Have a good time.
My $.02.
Well Gpimp31, you just might be the first person to be turned down for a membership here! LOL! :huh: j/k bud. Welcome to the board.
And congrats on your new car. From what I have seen on ClubGP, you have been looking ever so long for your perfect ride. I noticed you about post on every car for sale on the board. Glad you finally found one.
And no need to bring up this subject. Both parties are happy where they stand.
And if you really want to pursue it, I suggest you set up a party - might need 2 kegs - lots of food - then maybe things can get mended. You'll have to kidnap some members to come though! Good luck with that.
Welcome again.
J.E.T.
'97 Red GTP
j/k bud. Welcome to the board.And congrats on your new car. From what I have seen on ClubGP, you have been looking ever so long for your perfect ride. I noticed you about post on every car for sale on the board. Glad you finally found one.
And no need to bring up this subject. Both parties are happy where they stand.
And if you really want to pursue it, I suggest you set up a party - might need 2 kegs - lots of food - then maybe things can get mended. You'll have to kidnap some members to come though! Good luck with that.
Welcome again.
J.E.T.
'97 Red GTP
I just invited him to the club
I have no problem with him. I am having a fun time giving him shit though Everyone is welcome, and you're right Jack, we should continue to have fun and we will
That's why we rock! [/b][/quote] Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside! Awww John
P.S. I agree, drop it while you can, it will only get a lot worse before it might get better...
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ScreaminBlack6
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I have no idea if I will "stay" or not. I don't like a lot of the things I see on this board. I've already read through a lot of topics and it seems like the ILGPC members feel they are #1 in the country. You bad mouth CGPC, you bad mouth clubgp as the national board. However I do see points with a lot of the immaturity on the national board.....there is no reason for a lot of the things I've read.
I've read that clubgp is seen as a ZZP/Mike N. leghumpers....when that view is slanted b/c of your sponsership by Intense. There is a lot of bad blood going around from the national club....all the way down to the 2 regional groups in Illinois.
I see no point. You haven't even commented on any of the positive things I've posted about with views from both sides. You've picked out the worst of what I've said and picked it apart to try and get me to back down. I'm not going to. My points are valid. My points are thought out. Maybe there is a reason you won't comment on them? Maybe you see that there is a lot of truth to what I'm saying but you don't want to admit it. That's fine I suppose.
I don't think I could have picked a better thread to start out on. It shows I have loyalty, but I can see different views. I didn't come in here and attack you or the club. I simply stated what I thought of the situation with what you have said. You started a thread to pick on and bash CGPC.
If you can't get along with members from CGPC....that's your personal business. How can you flame me for posting what I have when you started the thread?? There is no need for this garbage on this forum, clubgp's forum or CGPC's forum. However it is on your forum and you started it.
Just think about that. It's quite hypocritical to flame me for my opinions and saying that I was wrong to join and post my opinions on a forum that doesn't have "bickering by the old standards". You wanted controversy when you started this topic. There are many members of ILGPC that are loyal to both clubs. EmersonHart just posted and he's a "crossover" as he says. You know there are CGPC people in here......and controversy is what you wanted. Well you got it, but you are going to complain about it when it comes. I don't understand that?
I've read that clubgp is seen as a ZZP/Mike N. leghumpers....when that view is slanted b/c of your sponsership by Intense. There is a lot of bad blood going around from the national club....all the way down to the 2 regional groups in Illinois.
I see no point. You haven't even commented on any of the positive things I've posted about with views from both sides. You've picked out the worst of what I've said and picked it apart to try and get me to back down. I'm not going to. My points are valid. My points are thought out. Maybe there is a reason you won't comment on them? Maybe you see that there is a lot of truth to what I'm saying but you don't want to admit it. That's fine I suppose.
I don't think I could have picked a better thread to start out on. It shows I have loyalty, but I can see different views. I didn't come in here and attack you or the club. I simply stated what I thought of the situation with what you have said. You started a thread to pick on and bash CGPC.
If you can't get along with members from CGPC....that's your personal business. How can you flame me for posting what I have when you started the thread?? There is no need for this garbage on this forum, clubgp's forum or CGPC's forum. However it is on your forum and you started it.
Just think about that. It's quite hypocritical to flame me for my opinions and saying that I was wrong to join and post my opinions on a forum that doesn't have "bickering by the old standards". You wanted controversy when you started this topic. There are many members of ILGPC that are loyal to both clubs. EmersonHart just posted and he's a "crossover" as he says. You know there are CGPC people in here......and controversy is what you wanted. Well you got it, but you are going to complain about it when it comes. I don't understand that?
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ScreaminBlack6
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Yup....that was me. I did finally find a car in my price range that was perfect for me. The mod bug has already kicked me in the ass.Originally posted by J.E.T.@Feb 11 2004, 02:03 AM
Well Gpimp31, you just might be the first person to be turned down for a membership here! LOL! :huh:
And congrats on your new car. From what I have seen on ClubGP, you have been looking ever so long for your perfect ride. I noticed you about post on every car for sale on the board. Glad you finally found one.
And no need to bring up this subject. Both parties are happy where they stand.
And if you really want to pursue it, I suggest you set up a party - might need 2 kegs - lots of food - then maybe things can get mended. You'll have to kidnap some members to come though! Good luck with that.
Welcome again.
J.E.T.
'97 Red GTP
Oh well....just need to get rid of the '94 now. I definately would like to meet up with the group sometime and see what it's about. But this shit has got to be settled. I just don't feel it's right to have 2 clubs so close together that are so combative and competetive when the end goals are the same. That seems extremely "childish" as Blitzu would say.
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