📰 Auto News Toyota FT-86 II Concept is one step closer to production

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

looking good. finally a good 4cyl rwd

 

[Mook]

 

[Bru]

The original FT-86 was so much win. Why did they go and fuck it up. That rear is hideous.

 

[Lead Pipe]

You know I really don't see much of a difference.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Looks like an accord coupe from the back. Gross.

 

[Primalzer]

I still like it, plus if they keep the weight down, like they have always said they would, it will be all sorts of win.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Hack off the rear end at the front of the rear wheel and hack the front end off and the door jamb and you have a 370Z.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I know right? If you hack the roof off and change the wheels it kind of looks like a _______ too doesn't it??

 

[Fiberworks]

Someone buy one so we can rip it apart and put carbon all over it. ...for the win.

 

[Primalzer]

I know right? If you hack the roof off and change the wheels it kind of looks like a _______ too doesn't it??

I'll give him credit, the A, B, and C pillars definitely give off a very 370Z feel

 

[Primalzer]

Our friends over at FT86Club got their hands on a Toyota FT-86 / Scion FR-S / Subaru BRZ training sheet and we finally have a look at the specs of the most anticipated sports car in a long time. Just expect some aspects to get lost in translation coming over the Pacific as a Scion FR-S.

The most anticipated statistic is weight, and this manual lists it as 1210kg (2662 pounds) for the base manual and 2706 pounds for the higher spec manual. An automatic adds 20kg in either trim level. Horsepower is listed as 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm and torque as 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm.

The engine is a 1998cc DOHC boxer 4 that drinks unleaded from a 50 liter (13.2 gallon) tank. Toyota is listing the fuel consumption as 12.8 kilometers/liter for the lower trim coupe and 12.4km/l for the top trim model. This should be somewhat different from what the EPA sticker will read in the states, different units of measurement aside.

In terms of wheels and tires, the low spec model comes with 16s with a 205/55R16 tire and the top spec rides on 17s with a 215/45R17 tire. The suspension is struts up front and double wishbone in the rear.

The FT86club forum spots that the top trim gets a limited slip differential on both manual and auto transmissions, while the lower spec model only gets LSD on manuals.

Both trim levels get stability control and front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. The base car comes with halogen lights with optional HIDs, which are standard on the more expensive trim. The top trim level also gets LEDs up front, a leather steering wheel, 6 speakers (four more than the low spec), and white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. The low spec only bets black dials. "Smart entry and start" also comes with the top trim. You can see what this will all look like in the scanned trim page.

Toyota offers up a comparison chart for the FT-86 in both trims against an MX-5, an RX-8, and a CR-Z, but we'll have to drive one of these things to know if it really delivers on the sports car handling the world's car enthusiasts have been waiting for.

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[Fiberworks]

I like the rims.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I know right? If you hack the roof off and change the wheels it kind of looks like a _______ too doesn't it??

Hell, leave the front end and it still looks like a 370Z.

 

[YoushallgoFo]

car and driver just came out with an article saying it not only has a different name but will be 28 grand(est) and only have 210 hp. I'm not digging this car at all sorry. If it was under 25g that'd be a different story.

this too.
http://jalopnik.com/5854865/scion-fr+s-all-the-specs

 

[Mook]

Once again the digital tentacles of FT-86 cluub, have snagged another vital bite of information about the yet-to-be-officially-released Toyota FT-86. First it was the Modellista photos, then they got hold of a Japanese magazine spread with the new sports coupe and now a product manual intended for dealer training. This leak includes not only full specs, but an answer to that pesky LED or no LED question.

Front LED's are standard issue on the FT-86 High-spec edition. This version of the FT-86 weighs 2,712 pounds and gets, standard HIDs, leather seats, 6-speaker stereo, white RPM dial with shift light, sport pedals, 17s and keyless entry/ start. The low-spec version gets a two-speaker stereo, 16-inch wheels and weighs in at 2,667 pounds. Tires on the high-spec model are 215/45R17 compared with 205/55R16 on the base car.

Both cars get front struts with double-wishbone rear suspension (which we've seen before on the racecar), limited slip (when equipped with a 6MT instead of the 6AT), stability control, and a 2.0-liter boxer engine. The engine makes 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 151 pound-feet of torque at 6,600.

The FR-S is 166 inches long, 69.88 inches wide, 50.59 inches tall and has a wheelbase of 101.18 inches.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...s-leaked-200-horsepower-2667-pounds.html#more

 

[Primalzer]

Just a little FYI comparison...

2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T
Weight - 3294 lbs
HP - 210
Torque - 223
0-60 - ~8.0 sec

Proposed FT-86
Weight - ~2700 lbs
HP - 200
Torque - 151

I think that as a base model motor, that 200 hp is going to be more than enough. Here is a comparison of the Genesis coupe vs. the FT-86 HP to weight ratio

Genesis Coupe 3.8 - 11.11 lbs/hp
Genesis Coupe 2.0T - 15.68 lbs/hp
FT-86 - 13.5 lbs/hp

I think with the turbo model from Subaru approaching 300 hp, and hopefully not gaining more than 150 lbs, it would move out pretty effectively.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

The genesis coupe 2.0t is a huge fucking turd.

 

[Bru]

 

[Dasfinc]

car and driver just came out with an article saying it not only has a different name but will be 28 grand(est) and only have 210 hp. I'm not digging this car at all sorry. If it was under 25g that'd be a different story.

this too.
http://jalopnik.com/5854865/scion-fr+s-all-the-specs

I can't believe they'd put a 28k MSRP on one of those things...

They would have to have a base MSRP of closer to 22k to even remotely compete with things like the Genesis coupe, V-6 mustang/camaro, etc...

 

[Primalzer]

The genesis coupe 2.0t is a huge fucking turd.

And this base model will be much quicker than the 2.0T Genesis

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

That's not hard to do. My 8 year old 227hp wagon rapes the 2.0t

 

[Primalzer]

But your WRX is technically a sub 6 sec to 60 car, that's still pretty quick by today's standards.

 

[Turk]

But your WRX is technically a sub 6 sec to 60 car, that's still pretty quick by today's standards.

By today, do you mean last decade?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Pretty sure camrys are faster then my car these days

 

[Bru]

A new WRX is only $1,000 more than a Gen Coupe 2.0T R-spec and such a better performance car.