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Old 05-10-2019, 07:18 AM   #1
 
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This is utterly ridiculous and shows just how low the IQ is of the people we unfortunately put in office.

Cliffs.... Licence fees double, Gas tax jumps to 44 cents a gallon, licence plate fees jump for normal cars........

Oh and EV car registration Jumps to $1000 dollars a year???? ROFL ROFL ROFL

Yes I will admit we do not pay our fair share and as EV sales grow our registration will have to increase to offset that.... but a proposed $1000 a year? That would be the equivalent of a gas car driving over 40,000 miles a year on the road. It should have been $250 dollar registration or $300 max.


Our Illinois politicians are quite literally brain dead. Throw huge numbers out there that make zero sense showing they did zero research. If this passes I will either not register my car and just gamble driving around... or I will simply register it in Indiana.


As if people already were not running for their lives out of this shit hole.
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Also how do you handle plug in hybrids? A Chevy volt can pay tax at the pump and also can drive gas free. How do you classify that car? Is it a regular vehicle or is it an EV?

And if itís an EV you are charging 1000 a year for a volt? I am laughing but itís a very nervous laugh.
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Should make it $2k a year.
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People already are not going to pay this, so Illinois is just once again hurting themselves. Posts already popping up on the Tesla forums. People saying they will simply register cars out of state with family members.

I plan to do the same. Wife has family in Indiana. If this passed I would just register it at their lake home.
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i like your plan of not registering your car.

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i like your plan of not registering your car.



I would just simply register it elsewhere. It would be a pain yes, but way better than paying that money. There was a new update today to this story I just found, and to no ones shock itís been met with huge back lash. Not just by us Illinois slaves, but by manufacturers as well.

Iím sure the fees will go up. But sounds like continuing to push for such a dramatic and unfounded increase would basically lead to political suicide.
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Ill let Illinois people register their cars to my Saint John address for $100 a pop
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This proposal is just a strawman, with not intentions of getting through. It will be followed with another proposal in six moths with about half the amounts ($0.20 per gallon, $500 for EV cars, etc.). Then no one will complain because it's not as bad as it could have been.
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/polit...508-story.html

This is utterly ridiculous and shows just how low the IQ is of the people we unfortunately put in office.

Cliffs.... Licence fees double, Gas tax jumps to 44 cents a gallon, licence plate fees jump for normal cars........

Oh and EV car registration Jumps to $1000 dollars a year???? ROFL ROFL ROFL

Yes I will admit we do not pay our fair share and as EV sales grow our registration will have to increase to offset that.... but a proposed $1000 a year? That would be the equivalent of a gas car driving over 40,000 miles a year on the road. It should have been $250 dollar registration or $300 max.


Our Illinois politicians are quite literally brain dead. Throw huge numbers out there that make zero sense showing they did zero research. If this passes I will either not register my car and just gamble driving around... or I will simply register it in Indiana.


As if people already were not running for their lives out of this shit hole.
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I would just simply register it elsewhere. It would be a pain yes, but way better than paying that money. There was a new update today to this story I just found, and to no ones shock itís been met with huge back lash. Not just by us Illinois slaves, but by manufacturers as well.

Iím sure the fees will go up. But sounds like continuing to push for such a dramatic and unfounded increase would basically lead to political suicide.
you actually said "not register it" in your original post...
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Ill let Illinois people register their cars to. Y Saint John address for $100 a pop


When I was doing some research I am not sure if itís just as easy as me putting down an address over there and getting a plate. I think I need to show proof of the address. Guessing a bill or something? Which is pretty standard. So thatís why I think people are doing this with family members. Easier to coordinate
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This proposal is just a strawman, with not intentions of getting through. It will be followed with another proposal in six moths with about half the amounts ($0.20 per gallon, $500 for EV cars, etc.). Then no one will complain because it's not as bad as it could have been.
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you actually said "not register it" in your original post...
In his defense he did also say register in indiana. I don’t think anyone would seriously just not register their car.
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When I was doing some research I am not sure if itís just as easy as me putting down an address over there and getting a plate. I think I need to show proof of the address. Guessing a bill or something? Which is pretty standard. So thatís why I think people are doing this with family members. Easier to coordinate
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you actually said "not register it" in your original post...


Correct. First step would just be to go elsewhere to another state. It sucks because obviously that is more difficult. The alternative is just simply rolling the dice.

The trans am hasnít been registered in 2 years. Granted this last year is obviously been off the road with the build, but I actually forgot to register it the prior year as the email notification went to my spam.

Zero issues so far. But I do plan to make it legal when itís done.
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This proposal is just a strawman, with not intentions of getting through. It will be followed with another proposal in six moths with about half the amounts ($0.20 per gallon, $500 for EV cars, etc.). Then no one will complain because it's not as bad as it could have been.


The old foot in the door policy. $1000 dollars!! Rabble rabble rabble.

How about $500? ďYea thatís fairĒ

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$500 makes plenty of sense for an electric car.
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A fair even amount makes sense. They need to figure out what an average owner spends on the gas tax.

I could be totally off. But I donít think you spend 500 a year at the pump in just tax.


Note I am all for paying my share..... but donít throw out utterly stupid numbers because (they) are ignorant.
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Spends crazy amount on bad ass Tesla....



Complains his plates might be $500....



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A fair even amount makes sense. They need to figure out what an average owner spends on the gas tax.

I could be totally off. But I don’t think you spend 500 a year at the pump in just tax.
Best guess is I spend around $400 not including my boats, lawn mower, sxs or whatever else "miscellaneous" gasoline.

so... 500 isn't too exuberant in my opinion.
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Best guess is I spend around $400 not including my boats, lawn mower, sxs or whatever else "miscellaneous" gasoline.


Current tax is 19 cents per gallon.

So letís just assume 16 gallon tank and 25 mpg average for owners. Taking out the very high and very low efficient vehicles.

Also letís assume 16,000 miles a year

16x25=400 miles

16,000/400 = 40 fill ups.

40 fill ups X 16 gallons = 640 gallons

640 X 19 cents = 122 dollars


If I did my math right..... hence why I am saying they are way way off. Again my numbers are a basic average. People drive more, drive less, drive a Cruze vs a big truck.
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How about the state managed their debt properly instead of increasing taxes and fees.

$1000, $500, $100, all fucking ridiculous.
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How about the state managed their debt properly instead of increasing taxes and fees.

$1000, $500, $100, all fucking ridiculous.


Yea thatís not gunna happen. We voted in a shit bag governor.

Things are going to increase across the board. No one cares about managing the money.
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Current tax is 19 cents per gallon.

So letís just assume 16 gallon tank and 25 mpg average for owners. Taking out the very high and very low efficient vehicles.

Also letís assume 16,000 miles a year

16x25=400 miles

16,000/400 = 40 fill ups.

40 fill ups X 16 gallons = 640 gallons

640 X 19 cents = 122 dollars


If I did my math right..... hence why I am saying they are way way off. Again my numbers are a basic average. People drive more, drive less, drive a Cruze vs a big truck.

first off. the way you calculated that actually cracks me up.

second off. you said
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meaning, me, personally.

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Best guess is I spend around $400 not including my boats, lawn mower, sxs or whatever else "miscellaneous" gasoline.
because i actually figured it out.

my truck goes about 17,000 or so miles per year, at likely on average 11 mpg.

17,000 / 11 mpg = 1545 gallons * .19 = ~294$

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15,000/ 25 mpg = 600 gallons * .19 = 114$

294+114 = $408
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first off. the way you calculated that actually cracks me up.



second off. you said



meaning, me, personally.



i said



because i actually figured it out.



my truck goes about 17,000 or so miles per year, at likely on average 11 mpg.



17,000 / 11 mpg = 1545 gallons * .19 = ~294$



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15,000/ 25 mpg = 600 gallons * .19 = 114$



294+114 = $408


So you are saying your 2 cars equal my 1 registration?
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