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Old 02-20-2019, 09:58 PM   #1
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Amends the Election Code. Provides that each election authority shall collaborate with the county jail within the jurisdiction of the election authority to facilitate voting by mail for voters eligible to vote in the county who are confined or detained in the county jail. Provides that in a county with a population of 3,000,000 or more, the election authority in the county shall establish a temporary branch polling place in the county jail. Provides that a refusal by an eligible voter to participate in the voting process must be documented by the voter or witnessed by a pollwatcher. Provides that individuals who facilitate a vote by mail process must receive training on the process, responsibilities, and requirements of implementing a vote by mail program. Contains additional provisions concerning the temporary branch polling place in the county jail. Prohibits certain individuals from from being election judges in a temporary branch polling place in a county jail. Amends the Counties Code. Provides that each election authority shall collaborate with the county jail within the jurisdiction of the election authority to facilitate voter registration for voters eligible to vote in that county who are confined or detained in the county jail. Provides that a county jail shall provide a voter registration application to any person in custody at the jail who requests an application and is eligible to vote. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that upon release of a person who is eligible to vote, the Department of Corrections shall provide the person with a specified form that informs him or her that his or her voting rights have been restored. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections and Counties Code. Provides that upon discharge from a county jail or release from the Department of Corrections, a person shall be provided with a voter registration form. Provides that the Department, each county jail, and each county probation office shall provide an individual in its custody with specified information on voting rights. Makes other changes.
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I have mixed feelings about this because it's an obvious DEM ploy to get more votes.

Still, one eligible voter, one vote. That's America.
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I have mixed feelings about this because it's an obvious DEM ploy to get more votes.

Still, one eligible voter, one vote. That's America.
I think once people are released they should be able to vote, but while in jail they are separated from society and voting is part of society.
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I just like the part about "certain" counties setting up and actual polling place in the jail and fully documenting any eligible voters who refuse to vote....But then the rest of the counties are just vote by mail. It's obvious which setup will be far more successful in getting people to vote.
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I think once people are released they should be able to vote, but while in jail they are separated from society and voting is part of society.
That's a legit argument and many States have laws on that. Florida just passed an amendment to allow former prisoners convicted of most crimes to vote again. Used to be prisoners lost their right to vote forever.
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When are they gonna do gun right restorations for felons? Just asking.

It's an obvious attempt at vote packing and theoretically they could be going for people whom are charged but not convicted.

The other question in my mind is what incentives are going to be given to inmates in the slam to vote and vote for particular people. It's Cook County we're talking about here.
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in a population of 3 million or more so..... Cook county only . Seems legit and not setup in any way to receive more of those particular votes.
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Why does Cook County even need votes? Don't they get like 85% in races?
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If you don't want to lose rights, don't be a POS criminal, especially a felon!!!!
Punishment should be a deterrence, not a slight temporary inconvenience!!!!!
If you want to stop crime, than stop crime, it's easy & cheap, much cheaper than the BS they do now!!!
Punishment should NEVER fit the crime, it should be scary, an actual deterrence.
Swift, severe, consistent punishment, not some pussy ass slap on the wrist!!!

AGAIN, every one knows by age 5, 10 at the latest what's right from wrong.
You don't have to learn the hard way.
You don't have to learn not to jump into a fire, or shoot yourself in the head, you sure and hell don't have to learn not to steal, or harm someone!!!!!

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Yes, but at what point is your debt to society paid? Your punishment is lifetime? When you speed and get a ticket it is a $100-$200 fine and you are considered back to square one in the States eyes. You commit a felony and serve XX years in jail is that not the same thing? If their debt to society isn’t paid why are they released?
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DETERRENCE, LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

If someone with normal intelligence knew they would lose the vote, lose other rights if caught speeding, you bet your ass every one would start driving 4 under instead of 15 over, nobody would risk texting or making a call, nobody would swerve in & out of traffic 15 times in a mile etc etc.
If you are too stupid and risk it, then you get what you deserve.

I know I sure and hell wouldn't speed if they gave out actual punishment, not just another scheme to steal more money for the POS politicians to piss away!!!!

You want to stop crime, than stop crime, it's easy & cheap!!!


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in a population of 3 million or more so..... Cook county only . Seems legit and not setup in any way to receive more of those particular votes.
There's truth to this since you've said it. I would be amused to see lawsuits from down state inmates who didn't get to vote. I wouldn't be surprised if they could make some sort of equal protection claim or the likes.
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Exactly, how in the hell do they think that's legal in any way???
Oh yea, the people in the other counties are majority Conservative, can't let any of those votes in!!!
If you are not a convicted criminal, you have the right to vote, awaiting trial or not.
It has nothing to do with the population of the area you happen to be living or locked up!!!

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So your stance is that no matter what crime is committed, the punishment is forever? Why not just kill everybody instead of just putting them in jail at that point?
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Exactly, how in the hell do they think that's legal in any way???
Oh yea, the people in the other counties are majority Conservative, can't let any of those votes in!!!
If you are not a convicted criminal, you have the right to vote, awaiting trial or not.
It has nothing to do with the population of the area you happen to be living or locked up!!!

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Except convicted criminals *DO* have the right to vote. The rule is as long as they're not serving prison time.

County jail is filled with people who have yet to be convicted of anything at all. They're in there awaiting trial.

Also, please read the Constitution again. And when you are done, read it again. Maybe another 2 or 3 times so you can hammer the points into your head.
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So your stance is that no matter what crime is committed, the punishment is forever? Why not just kill everybody instead of just putting them in jail at that point?
I think it depends on the crime honestly.

As I've said previously though I think it's amusing some rights get restored but others don't. Voting is dangerous in its own right, look at Chicago politics. Hitler got elected the first time. My preference would be a probationary schedule that results in the gradual restoration of rights depending on the nature of the crime. It is also dependent on the idea that you punish people for crimes appropriately which we fail to do IMO.
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That's hilarious, clueless people giving legal tutorials!!!!


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That's hilarious, clueless people giving legal tutorials!!!!


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You calling anyone clueless is the hilarious part. Go yell at some kids on your lawn like the rest of your dying generation.
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WOW, it got even funnier, as they say, you just can't fix stupid.

I'll put my results against anyone's and will bet I win 99.7925836483% of the time!!!
Usually by 35-45 points!!!!!!


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WOW, it got even funnier, as they say, you just can't fix stupid.

I'll put my results against anyone's and will bet I win 99.7925836483% of the time!!!
Usually by 35-45 points!!!!!!


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No you definitely can't fix stupid. I'm sure you've been spewing your bullshit your whole life so you're a testament to that statement.
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