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Old 07-11-2018, 05:08 PM   #12851
 
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If people woke up and realized that Republicans and Democrats are just aged Crips and Bloods, they might realize how stupid they look by not trying to compromise.
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Dude has like 3 houses including a beach house and a lambo. I'm wanting to say he bought the lambo mid-late 2016 into early 2017, and some of the property has come as well. As it was put "socialism is great if you don't have to live under it!"



Bernie's going to redistrubute them.
wait what? did you just say bernie owns a lambo? i'm very confused.

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It's hard to believe I ever liked Sanders. He's such a sellout. DEM party screwed him in the primaries and he's still spouting DEM rhetoric. Don't know what they gave him but it must have been something good.
it's easy for me to believe this. you are a populist. you just roll with whatever sounds good to your ears or confirms your biases.

trump and bernie also share the same bad ideas on trade.
Donald Trump says he and Bernie Sanders are 'very similar' on trade | PolitiFact North Carolina

bernie also ignores that denmark is consistently rated very high in trade freedom (including above the US)
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If people woke up and realized that Republicans and Democrats are just aged Crips and Bloods, they might realize how stupid they look by not trying to compromise.

One issue is the huge difference in philosophy's.

I've asked this same ?? on multiple forums and not 1 democrat will answer.
What gives anyone the right to collect free hand outs they didn't earn.
What gives someone perfectly able to work, the right to be on welfare generation after generation.
Where in the Constitution anywhere does it say we are entitled to a damn nickle handed to us
from the government for doing absolutely nothing.
Where in the Constitution does it say a guy that pays more income tax for a single year,
then you will earn in your entire life, your parents entire life & all your children's entire life didn't pay their fair share.
What gives anyone the right to demand more & more free handouts
and then have the gall to say only the guys in the brackets above them should pay more taxes, but not their bracket.

The problem is not on both sides.
1 side claims the other is intolerant, hateful, prejudice, but they are the ones that riot when they don't get their exact way,
they are the ones that hate the other side before they even know who the candidate is, they are the ones that are prejudice,
but living by "do as I say, not as I do"

How many riots did Conservatives cause when obama won???
How many fires, stores destroyed, looting, assaults did conservatives cause when a POS criminal was caught being a POS criminal
and died trying to escape??


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One issue is the huge difference in philosophy's.

I've asked this same ?? on multiple forums and not 1 democrat will answer.
What gives anyone the right to collect free hand outs they didn't earn.
What gives someone perfectly able to work, the right to be on welfare generation after generation.
Where in the Constitution anywhere does it say we are entitled to a damn nickle handed to us
from the government for doing absolutely nothing.
Where in the Constitution does it say a guy that pays more income tax for a single year,
then you will earn in your entire life, your parents entire life & all your children's entire life didn't pay their fair share.
What gives anyone the right to demand more & more free handouts
and then have the gall to say only the guys in the brackets above them should pay more taxes, but not their bracket.

The problem is not on both sides.
1 side claims the other is intolerant, hateful, prejudice, but they are the ones that riot when they don't get their exact way,
they are the ones that hate the other side before they even know who the candidate is, they are the ones that are prejudice,
but living by "do as I say, not as I do"

How many riots did Conservatives cause when obama won???
How many fires, stores destroyed, looting, assaults did conservatives cause when a POS criminal was caught being a POS criminal
and died trying to escape??


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None of that stuff, but there are crazies that like to show pics of aborted babies and such and they might not be as violent, they are just as crazy though.
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BMW's move in the game. Most corps, including American corps, will be crying about any short term profit losses. If Trump wins and they make way more profits, they'll shut up. BMW makes a statement against the tariffs and a move that should make them money in the future.

The corp bosses are probably secretly OK with the tariffs because it gives them an excuse for any lesser profits that show up to stockholders. It's Trump's fault. Don't fire me.

The trade war is a game with many rounds to come. Important thing is we are holding the Aces.
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One issue is the huge difference in philosophy's.

I've asked this same ?? on multiple forums and not 1 democrat will answer.
What gives anyone the right to collect free hand outs they didn't earn.
What gives someone perfectly able to work, the right to be on welfare generation after generation.
Where in the Constitution anywhere does it say we are entitled to a damn nickle handed to us
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Where in the Constitution does it say a guy that pays more income tax for a single year,
then you will earn in your entire life, your parents entire life & all your children's entire life didn't pay their fair share.
What gives anyone the right to demand more & more free handouts
and then have the gall to say only the guys in the brackets above them should pay more taxes, but not their bracket.

The problem is not on both sides.
1 side claims the other is intolerant, hateful, prejudice, but they are the ones that riot when they don't get their exact way,
they are the ones that hate the other side before they even know who the candidate is, they are the ones that are prejudice,
but living by "do as I say, not as I do"

How many riots did Conservatives cause when obama won???
How many fires, stores destroyed, looting, assaults did conservatives cause when a POS criminal was caught being a POS criminal
and died trying to escape??


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I see plenty of reasons for the government to help Americans. If someone loses a job or gets hit with a giant bill, it's a good thing if government help is available.

I strongly disagree with people being on aid their entire lives. Unless they are truly disabled and can't perform ANY job, they should work same as the rest of us. Get rid of lifetime Welfare and our taxes should go down.
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My company is German owned. I communicate every day with Germany. Its my job.

Trump really went off after the Germans in the Germany/Russia gasoline deal. I believe I heard it would bring Germany's dependence on Russian fuel to 75%. This was during the NATO conference calling attention to very NOT-NATO behavior from Germany.

From what I have gathered, many Germans are making comments which might be construed as less than enthusiastic about America in General.
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Trump has been going after Merkel since before he was President.

That's a BIG battle going on over there. Merkel is unofficial leader of Europe and Trump wants to beat her down. He's trying to take out an enemy.

Edit: Side note: Can anyone name which country started WW1 and WW2?

Re-edit: Why is Germany buying 75% of their oil from Russia? Helps Russia and makes Germany dependent on them. Time for another Germany/Russia pairing?

If Mexico sold us 75% of our oil, we wouldn't be talking about borders.
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My company is German owned. I communicate every day with Germany. Its my job.

Trump really went off after the Germans in the Germany/Russia gasoline deal. I believe I heard it would bring Germany's dependence on Russian fuel to 75%. This was during the NATO conference calling attention to very NOT-NATO behavior from Germany.

From what I have gathered, many Germans are making comments which might be construed as less than enthusiastic about America in General.

So the Germans only true enemy is russia, and they get 75% of their vital oil from russia, and they think poorly about PRESIDENT Trump & America???
Sounds just as idiotic as losers in this country buying TRILLIONS of dollars of cheap, stolen, counterfeited, slave labor, inferior material crap from china, our only true enemy.

SHouldn't an intelligent person, country NOT hand money to your enemy!!
Shouldn't an intelligent person, country boycott completely any support for your enemy!!

How much did we buy from Germany & Japan when they were our enemy.
china & russia should be in complete isolation until they stop bullying their neighbors, invading neighbors and the other abuses some people are always whining about.

How many TRILLIONS of dollars are we spending to defend our selves from china & russia, and then we go send them even more dough so they can build up their military!!!!

The German people should be demanding ZERO trade with russia, not the entire country dependent on them!!!!


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BMW's move in the game. Most corps, including American corps, will be crying about any short term profit losses. If Trump wins and they make way more profits, they'll shut up. BMW makes a statement against the tariffs and a move that should make them money in the future.
why can you learn nothing about trade

if left, right, and center economists all think this is bad, why can't you wipe the trump jizz from your eyes and see this i don't understand

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Trump has been going after Merkel since before he was President.

That's a BIG battle going on over there. Merkel is unofficial leader of Europe and Trump wants to beat her down. He's trying to take out an enemy.

Edit: Side note: Can anyone name which country started WW1 and WW2?
OH WOW LOL GOOD ONE!!!11

why do you even post silly crap like this??

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Re-edit: Why is Germany buying 75% of their oil from Russia? Helps Russia and makes Germany dependent on them.
because it's close and they produce a ton of it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oil_production

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another? what are you even talking about?
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why can you learn nothing about trade

if left, right, and center economists all think this is bad, why can't you wipe the trump jizz from your eyes and see this i don't understand
I think a multi billionaire might have a grasp of world economics. How much do your economists make a year?



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why do you even post silly crap like this??
I guess you don't understand how important the players are in a game like this?



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because it's close and they produce a ton of it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oil_production
Sigh. Long explanation. What has the MSM been harping on for a year and a half? Russia, Russia, Russia. Trump is pointing out that Germany is becoming dependent on... Russia.

Merkel is queen of the globalists. Trump disagrees with the one world with one group of leaders. Maybe it's for himself, maybe for America, maybe for both. Maybe he realizes that unlimited immigration is a bad thing and Germany is the poster child? Seems to me that America is king right now. Why would we give that up? If you disagree, you're a globalist.



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another? what are you even talking about?
Have you studied history? At all?

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Even more, Germany and Russia have had a relationship for centuries. If Hitler hadn't decided to go for it all and attack Russia, we'd probably all be speaking German now.

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I think a multi billionaire might have a grasp of world economics. How much do your economists make a year?
oh so is george soros a good economist too then?
is whoever has the most money a better economist?

you fail to explain how trump could be correct when left, right, and center economists all believe protectionism is stupid and everyone loses in a trade war. why isn't someone from any school of thought (besides bernie sanders) on his side? you defer to "he's rich!" as if that even proves he knows anything - you are basically providing the answer of a naive 10 year old child, while you're far far far old enough to know better, particularly if you even want to be involved in any of these conversations. i'll again point out you even acting as if a trade deficit grows the national debt in some prior comments - despite them being completely unrelated.

you also fail to explain how economic genius trump missed the absolutely massive asset bubble in the very industry he has actually had success in. it's clear he failed to see it based on his investments in real estate education and franchising, his investments in mortgage businesses, his failure and subsequent welch of his personal loan guarantee for a real estate project to deutsche bank, as well as comments from his own mouth in general at various points.

but ultimately you don't care about any of these anyway, you can't see or hear about these failures, i know what i just typed didn't actually make it into your brain, because you have sensory overload from all the trump jizz you keep stuffing into your mouth, eyes, and ears. oh also several economists i read called the bubble early and publicly, as documented in a white paper as well: http://www.heterodoxnews.com/htnf/ht...s%20coming.pdf - including the guy who called it earliest (eric) who i actually occasionally email with (although not about economics). not billionaires, but also not blowhards


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I guess you don't understand how important the players are in a game like this?
what i don't understand is why you are bringing up germany and who started world wars, other than blathering nonsense.

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Sigh. Long explanation. What has the MSM been harping on for a year and a half? Russia, Russia, Russia. Trump is pointing out that Germany is becoming dependent on... Russia.
sigh, short explanation, russia fucking produces oil, and is close, what do you think germany should do? tap into their imaginary local endowment that doesn't exist? import 75% of their oil from france instead? you know the US has gotten a ton of oil from venezuela too, right? because back in reality, they are close and actually have some to sell?

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Merkel is queen of the globalists. Trump disagrees with the one world with one group of leaders. Maybe it's for himself, maybe for America, maybe for both. Maybe he realizes that unlimited immigration is a bad thing and Germany is the poster child? Seems to me that America is king right now. Why would we give that up? If you disagree, you're a globalist.
have you been listening to alex jones lately? "oh noes the globalists!!!11" is free and open trade going to magically lead into some one world government flyn, where the globalists led by merkel take over 'murica? what does any of this have to do with unlimited immigration? is that something the US has a problem with? does "defeating merkel" in your imaginary final boss scenario of somehow fighting her and beating her solve the US immigration problem? is the quantity and speed of immigration ingest in the US and germany even comparable, you know with another subject you're probably bad at, math? what exactly have i or anyone said america should "give up"? how much are you drinking tonight to spew out such nonsense?

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Have you studied history? At all?
i feel like you've missed the most relevant excerpt from your own link:

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The Eastern Front became the horrendous ideological and race war with more than 20 millions killed, including Soviet prisoners of war and Jews. It was perhaps the bloodiest conflict in human history.[23]
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I don't see any way we would be speaking German.
Have you seen the numbers on production after we entered the war.
Yes we would have lost a lot more people, but Germany had absolutely no chance after we entered full time.
They made a huge early push against horse back soldiers, and cowards, but there was just no way they could sustain it once the "Giant Was Awoken".

Especially after we got the bomb 1st.


The government offering help in an emergency, a rare, limited, temporary, last resort type programs is not what these leeches are demanding & think they are entitled to.
Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution the government owes us anything we didn't earn.
It doesn't say we are supposed to be the worlds piggy bank, it doesn't say we are required to save every one that screws up, it doesn't say a fat lazy welfare whore can sit on the couch generation after generation collecting bribe payments from the liberals for their vote!!!!

The government has a job, safety, security, basic education & infrastructure.
"NOT" supporting welfare whores, able body leeches & entitlement whores that refuse to take care of them self.

Earn what you get, keep what you earn, and take care of your own family.

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Do we have a thread on the NYC Socialist yet? Just asking, if so I will move this there.
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Right now they are a cottage industry. You're right, not really of immediate consequence. But Pruitt's replacement was in on rolling the regs back too, which could mean increasing that number.

I'm worried 5 years or maybe a decade down the line if regulations are eliminated, and the majority of trucks being sold are through loopholes. Yes, you are extended the service life of the engine, but the rest of the body and equipment is all new build.
Pruitt is a POS. I'm not a tree hugger, but rolling back diesel emissions is assine. Diesel engines are significant polluters and I would like to actually see more done to control pollution. I know the industry will push back that due to cost blah blah, but I'll argue that the healthcare side effects of pollution are much more expensive.
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you sound like a liberal.
I'm not. Diesel exhaust smells like crap, pollutes than gas powered vehicles, and is linked to a lot things like cancer. I don't think wanting to live and be healthy is exclusive to liberals.
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I actually kinda like it. Not that I stick my nose in their tailpipes, but...

Yea, that might explain a thing or two here...
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its such a drop in the bucket compared to all the barges and cargo ships burning bunker oil . But how else we gonna ship those Prius batteries between continents?
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But diesel trucks are the problem bro
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