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Old 01-24-2019, 12:47 PM   #19351
 
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She is totally the left's version of Trump....


Say anything you want, even if it makes zero sense, then when people call you out on it yell "fake news!" or complain about how they covered it.


I almost wish she were 35 so she could run against Trump, but given the chance she could win I'll pass.
Well since folks want to normalize trumps nonsensical tweets then this is the kind of this that is going happen. Character doesn't count and facts don't matter as long as youre a loud enough cheerleader for your side.
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AOC voted NO to the DEM vote to re-open the government.

The DEM bill wasn't DEM enough for her. She wants no funding for ICE.
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Looks like HuffPost shut down their opinion section...what a loss!


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Old 01-24-2019, 02:18 PM   #19354
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So does that mean there were at least 1.2mil illegal voters in LA alone?
there's no evidence whatsoever to believe anything like this happened.

also you can come up with numbers like this based on simple explanations:
1. old shitty system that has been outdated for many years
2. people moving
3. people changing names
4. people registering with multiple variations of a name
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a huge amount of registered people don't even vote.

so concluding there were "at least 1.2 mil illegal voters in LA alone" is ridiculous. there's no reason to think the amount of potentially illegal voters in the entire country is even anywhere near that amount.
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there's no evidence whatsoever to believe anything like this happened.

also you can come up with numbers like this based on simple explanations:
1. old shitty system that has been outdated for many years
2. people moving
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a huge amount of registered people don't even vote.

so concluding there were "at least 1.2 mil illegal voters in LA alone" is ridiculous. there's no reason to think the amount of potentially illegal voters in the entire country is even anywhere near that amount.
Inclined to agree with this. That said it proves that the idea purging voter polls of people being "wrong" is absurd.
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Inclined to agree with this. That said it proves that the idea purging voter polls of people being "wrong" is absurd.
while there's bullshit posturing and speculation all over this board of voter fraud, i've note the same fix many a time - updating the way we register voters. it's done differently everywhere with the only common theme being on some old shitty ass system. iirc there were some costs associated with just using the system, like registering a voter in the US is $2 and in canada it's 3 cents. there's nothing but benefits to be had by updating this system to modern technology.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:53 PM   #19360
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Bro you keep posting like this you need to change your avatar.

is this directed at me? if so i would have had to assign someone a belief. but all i did was respond to the quoted one.
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I think Donald Trump has been cheating his whole life. A big benefit of Trump is the non stop entertainment. It truly is a circus.

Still better than Hillary.

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Right.... But wasn't it figured out that the percentile was waaaaayyy worse than other races?
go figure people who were literally property in the past, and people who are still living today who were treated as inferior to others by law have struggled more economically. why would you do anything other than expect them to have a higher percentage of welfare use?

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Kinda like how there is x amount more colored in prison than whites and yet whites still hold the cake for population? I thought that's what we were on but could be wrong
so does that have more to do with being black or being poor? and of those who are poor are whites and blacks treated equally by the system? i just posted some stuff a couple days ago on how the answer to that is definitely no.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:08 PM   #19363
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Looks like HuffPost shut down their opinion section...what a loss!


a good white privilege article would be on how she could spend the time and money to get a phd in rom-coms
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California admits that most of the extra voters are "probably" illegal aliens.

State says aliens who live in America are allowed to vote by obscure, 100 y.o. law.
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while there's bullshit posturing and speculation all over this board of voter fraud, i've note the same fix many a time - updating the way we register voters. it's done differently everywhere with the only common theme being on some old shitty ass system. iirc there were some costs associated with just using the system, like registering a voter in the US is $2 and in canada it's 3 cents. there's nothing but benefits to be had by updating this system to modern technology.
Meh it's just like the border; Is it a problem? Yes. Is it as bad as one side is making out? Probably not? Should we be proactive in dealing with it? Absolutely. Is it posturing and "scare tactics?" Quite probably. Do both sides do it? Absolutely. That's why there's an assault weapons ban that was proposed in Illinois in the last week or so.
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you are openly wondering and seriously considering whether millions of illegals voted in one single city alone. meanwhile there isn't even concrete proof of say 10k votes nationwide.

calling out that you believe in fantastical bullshit with no logical evidence is not "trolling"
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How do you reconcile the combination of, at least, 12% extra voters in L.A. county with vote "harvesting" being legal?

Explain why votes need to be harvested if it's not so people who don't want to show their faces at the polls or who don't understand voting and just turn over their, sometimes blank, ballots to the harvesters can have "their" votes counted? Seems to be a formula for voter fraud to me.

You want to vote? Show your ID and step into a booth.
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How do you reconcile the combination of, at least, 12% extra voters in L.A. county with vote "harvesting" being legal?

Explain why votes need to be harvested if it's not so people who don't want to show their faces at the polls or who don't understand voting and just turn over their, sometimes blank, ballots to the harvesters can have "their" votes counted? Seems to be a formula for voter fraud to me.

You want to vote? Show your ID and step into a booth.
is this one of those times where you're totally not blabbing about your own fantastical world view? if these are so related then the only recent legalization of that harvesting should statistically correlate with a massive recent swelling of registrants right? so.... did that actually happen?

the harvesting is stupid and they should have not legalized it the way they did because it does look shady as fuck.
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Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall

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Washington (CNN)The White House is preparing a draft proclamation for President Donald Trump to declare a national emergency along the southern border and has identified more than $7 billion in potential funds for his signature border wall should he go that route, according to internal documents reviewed by CNN.

Trump has not ruled out using his authority to declare a national emergency and direct the Defense Department to construct a border wall as Congress and the White House fight over a deal to end the government shutdown. But while Trump's advisers remain divided on the issue, the White House has been moving forward with alternative plans that would bypass Congress.

"The massive amount of aliens who unlawfully enter the United States each day is a direct threat to the safety and security of our nation and constitutes a national emergency," a draft of a presidential proclamation reads.

"Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C 1601, et seq.), hereby declare that a national emergency exists at the southern border of the United States," the draft adds.
The draft was updated as recently as last week, a US government official told CNN.

According to options being considered, the administration could pull: $681 million from treasury forfeiture funds, $3.6 billion in military construction, $3 billion in Pentagon civil works funds, and $200 million in Department of Homeland Security funds, the official said.

The Defense Department referred a request for comment from CNN to the White House, which has not responded.
If the declaration is made, the US Army Corps of Engineers would be deployed to construct the wall, some of which could be built on private property and would therefore require the administration to seize the land, which is permitted if it's for public use.

The administration's plans acknowledge the possibility for lawsuits if they move forward with acquiring private property. The documents also reflect a sense of urgency with administration plans, noting that environmental reviews can be skipped and DHS can use waivers to bypass contracting laws.

If the President proceeds with the declaration, it'll likely be challenged in court and by Democrats in Congress, as critics have argued that Trump cannot use the national emergency authority to free up taxpayer funds and build the border wall he has long promised his political supporters.

The question of legality and court challenges is still one of the main hang-ups in using executive action to secure the wall funding. Trump's advisers have cautioned that taking that route would lead to certain legal challenge, meaning the wall construction would still be delayed.

The draft document cites Title 10 of the US Code, which allows Trump to unlock a stash of Pentagon funds that are earmarked but have no signed contracts for spending that money. That would give the President authority to pull from military construction funds and civil works projects, like infrastructure repair projects.
Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, tweeted earlier this month that acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, "assured Texans that he understood the deep concerns about using Harvey relief funds for the border." CNN previously reported that the Pentagon was asked to provide a list of those projects in anticipation of a national emergency.

The Pentagon has assisted the Department of Homeland Security in the past. For example, the Army Corps of Engineers, a federal agency within DOD that provides public engineering services, has helped evaluate prototypes of the border wall.

Options under consideration conceded that acquiring private property would take time. Even if voluntary, the land could take up to a year to be acquired. Land condemnation cases are known to take time because property owners have the right to sue. A national emergency declaration would not speed that process up, a government official says.

Customs and Border Protection has said that it would consider eminent domain in the future.

"It is always CBP's preference to acquire property through a voluntary, negotiated sale. The Government will attempt to negotiate an offer to sell using survey data and value estimates gleaned from the surveying process," reads an excerpt in a border wall Q&A on their site. "The Government will attempt to negotiate an offer to sell before moving forward with exercising eminent domain. However, if the Government and landowner are unable to reach a negotiated sale or if the Government is unable to obtain clean title, the Government will need to file an eminent domain action."



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