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Old 12-28-2018, 10:21 PM   #18351
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Having cheap labor allows inefficient methods to continue. If the labor is gone, the methods will get better.
you act as if the farming industry isn't already working on this, while in reality there is a huge amount of technology investment at play. this is already taking place without the fantasy myth we have already proven wrong, that chasing out illegals from that labor pool results in anything positive. so why do people keep holding on to this fantasy that we should do it?

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Food stamps to help out people who absolutely can't work or who are in a temporary money jam is fine. Food stamps that increase with every kid born to a mother on food stamps and generational/continually increasing food stamps are an eventual bankruptcy or revolution. Women who want food stamps should be required to take long term birth control implants. If they have the implants removed and have a kid, they should have to pay for them themselves. You want to have a bunch of kids? Work hard enough to get off food stamps and pay for them. Why should tax payers have to pay for people who don't work and continue having lots of sex and babies? It's the old grasshopper and ant fable except the ants are donating more and more to the grasshoppers.
but mein fuhrer why do we not just sterilize the undesirables?

and where do you even get this that all these people are having kids for more benefits? you decry #fakenews but like your whole core belief system is myths told to suckers decades ago, which is why you are so easy to identify as an old. your fundamental belief system is based on bullshit.
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We already have Eugenics in this country; it's called Planned Parenthood.
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I get it from seeing the system from the inside.

After my last business collapsed, my family was on food stamps for 2 years. It was great getting extra money at first but, as we got set up in Florida, we started making money again in new professions. When this happened, the food stamp money dried up fast. Too fast. It made the 2nd year tougher than the first even though we were working hard. Amy called and asked if they could increase the funds. The woman on the other end asked her if she was pregnant. Amy said no and the woman said she should think about it. The government actually told us to have a baby to get more money.

As far as sterilizing women, they are getting food stamps. It's a trade off. You want largesse from the government, don't have more kids and don't get more money from having more kids. Giving this money encourages large families on welfare. Seems stupid to me. Encouraging getting off welfare and not having kids while you can't support them makes more sense. Nobody's saying these women can't have kids. Just don't pay them for having them. Use the sterilization as the method to accomplish this. Choice is up to the woman if she wants it.
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I get it from seeing the system from the inside.

After my last business collapsed, my family was on food stamps for 2 years. It was great getting extra money at first but, as we got set up in Florida, we started making money again in new professions. When this happened, the food stamp money dried up fast. Too fast. It made the 2nd year tougher than the first even though we were working hard. Amy called and asked if they could increase the funds. The woman on the other end asked her if she was pregnant. Amy said no and the woman said she should think about it. The government actually told us to have a baby to get more money.
i would like to know how many times out of 100 if i called up about food stamps how often someone would recommend i go have a baby. what is the ROI of having a baby anyway like negative eleventy billion? babies are expensive and their labor is total crap. kids are expensive, you should know this, since you have some

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As far as sterilizing women, they are getting food stamps. It's a trade off. You want largesse from the government, don't have more kids and don't get more money from having more kids. Giving this money encourages large families on welfare. Seems stupid to me. Encouraging getting off welfare and not having kids while you can't support them makes more sense. Nobody's saying these women can't have kids. Just don't pay them for having them. Use the sterilization as the method to accomplish this. Choice is up to the woman if she wants it.
this is like mixing some 1930s eugenicist views with some 1970s political messages, as i said before your fundamental views are based on a pile of bullshit. that welfare encourages people to have more kids is a myth, it's #fakenews that you believe because the only things you have a problem with are those you don't want to hear. why don't states that pay more result in higher birth rates? why do increases in benefits or decreases in them based on inflation not result in lower birth rates? why does the average number of kids in a family on welfare nearly reflect the average not?

i'm sure there are a few people out there gaming the system, doing things illegally (selling food stamps) and living pretty base miserable lives and even shittier pushing that on their kids, but it's this smallest sliver of abuse and any policies made as a result should be minor things to try and curb it, not a wholehearted dragster drop of romanticizing no food stamps days, or flyngenics government sterilization programs, YOU are a scarier boogey man and threat to america "than increasing food stamps are an eventual bankruptcy or revolution."
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Trump: Give Me a Wall or I’ll Engineer a Recession

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The United States loses soooo much money on Trade with Mexico under NAFTA, over 75 Billion Dollars a year (not including Drug Money which would be many times that amount), that I would consider closing the Southern Border a “profit making operation.” We build a Wall or close the Southern Border. Bring our car industry back into the United States where it belongs. Go back to pre-NAFTA, before so many of our companies and jobs were so foolishly sent to Mexico. Either we build (finish) the Wall or we close the Border.
i would like to point out that economic god master and 5d chess champion trump again says the dumbest fucking shit ever - as if the US "lost" $75 billion because we have a trade deficit with mexico of 75 billion.

you can head on over to mook's year end amazon spending thread extravaganza and see the average TCG'er is running something like a $3000/yearly trade deficit with amazon. is amazon "winning" and you "losing"?

trade only happens when both parties benefit else the trade would not happen. why does business economy god man not understand first week economics? or maybe he is just 6d chessing out in front of everyone, except how does this positioning do anything other than sound like an empty threat he can't make good on and something that would be catastrophically stupid?
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Lmao - the employee was like a 4 yrs old having a temper tantrum. Sounded like a chick.
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I wish political threads could be like other threads. Some one says their car can run a 10 second quarter, some one else says bs. So original poster posts a time slip. In a political thread some one says immigrants are coming here to get on welfare, someone says bull. Then someone else says the tax cut saved 1% ers billions. Someone says bs. No one ever comes back and posts actually proof about their statements everyone just moves on to the next one. Next thing you know you got 20,000 posts about nothing........
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In car threads, you don't usually have people trying to hide the data because it says bad things about their party platform.

Try finding out details on the budget sometime and you'll see what I mean. Food stamps, for instance, get put in the farm bill. Try separating out the actual numbers without an accountant and FOIA requests. The news media doesn't usually help. They just report what they're told.
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I wish political threads could be like other threads. Some one says their car can run a 10 second quarter, some one else says bs. So original poster posts a time slip. In a political thread some one says immigrants are coming here to get on welfare, someone says bull. Then someone else says the tax cut saved 1% ers billions. Someone says bs. No one ever comes back and posts actually proof about their statements everyone just moves on to the next one. Next thing you know you got 20,000 posts about nothing........
Yeah, that's a fairly black and white question at a small scale which makes a huge difference. Not only that but you don't have bodies of people trying to manipulate things, and even then they're disparate in how the questions are asked and interpreted. Let me give you an example:

Lets say a person in the US is shot to death. There is either a sign off by a medical official with the stated cause of death or if it's in doubt they do a cororner's inquest to determine the cause. At this point it would go into the homicide statistics for whatever bodies it gets reported to such as the FBI Uniform Crime statistics; This is somewhat of a misrepresentation in its own right since the reporting is typically voluntary and not done consistently.

Now then, lets take the UK; Back in the late 60s they changed to a system that required a person to be convicted of the homicide before it got put on the books as such; This has a few effects. First off, it means that if someone say stabs someone 30 times in the back it's not going to be ruled a homicide until they're caught and convicted even if it's decades later. It can also mean that if a person's never convicted the homicide never even goes on the books.

These numbers often get used in comparisons by gun control groups to the US to show how low their numbers are. Chicago has about a 20-25% clearance rate for homicides (someone getting charged) even less are likely to be convicted. Imagine how low our numbers would look if we could get rid of say 80-90% of our homicides on the books? There is also a cherry picking of numbers (admittedly pro gun groups do this too at times.) I am personally leery of boxed years, locations or circumstances typically unless they are actually important to the debate at large e.g. "public" mass shootings vs private ones.

This means that just showing a time slip isn't the only aspect that has to be worked on. You have to ask questions extremely carefully in order to facilitate getting answers that actually mean something and aren't just spin. There's a lot of grey area and ambiguity and that causes problems. In my opinion be wary of any governing body who shirks transparency which means the vast, vast majority of them.
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Not really Trump related but Gavin Sein is a civil rights activist who videoed police for years pointing out the criminal acts some of them used during the course of their duties. He was charged with mostly BS crimes and fled the country rather than risk jail.

He's in Mexico and still protesting. Sometimes against American tyranny and sometimes on events that happen in Mexico.

In this video, Gavin attempts to run a toll booth. According to him these toll booths are illegal and many Mexicans take them over and liberate them to stop the expensive tolls.

The toll booth security smashes his window and cuts up his kids. Pretty wild.

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In car threads, you don't usually have people trying to hide the data because it says bad things about their party platform.

Try finding out details on the budget sometime and you'll see what I mean. Food stamps, for instance, get put in the farm bill. Try separating out the actual numbers without an accountant and FOIA requests. The news media doesn't usually help. They just report what they're told.
yeah you're a real data driven guy with your claims of 22 million illegals and millions of them participating in election fraud.
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Care to show me where I said that?

You're not good at the social media, fake news game. Leave it to the MSM and people who play it better than you.
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Care to show me where I said that?

You're not good at the social media, fake news game. Leave it to the MSM and people who play it better than you.
you are the prototypical sucker that can't evaluate any data or info for shit and only allow in anything that confirms your bias while denying anything that doesn't as #fakenews.

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I doubt the author was envisioning 22,000,000 illegal aliens living in America. Plus, there was no welfare system back then.


i have to go so i'm too busy to track down where you have been in support of trump's claim that millions of illegals are voting, but let's not pretend you've never cited that either k?
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While arriving in Washington, D.C., after trips to Iraq and Germany, the first lady stepped out in a green Prada peacoat and tight, tan leather pants Thursday. But some thought she wasn't wearing any pants at all.

The optical illusion-esque pants left Twitter users confused, filling the social media site with strong reactions to the look.

"Can someone tell me why @FLOTUS got off of Marine One without pants and shoes and wearing sunglasses at night? I’m legit curious," one user tweeted.

"@FLOTUS where are your pants? And sunglasses at night? Something isn’t right!" another said.

Others thought it looked like she was wearing a mini-skirt.

"Holy crap. That is a MINI, mini-skirt," another commented.

"@FLOTUS returns to Washington at night wearing sunglasses and a mini-skirt. WTH?" another tweeted.
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You just can't fix stupid.
The Republicans were just as stupid when "never POS crooked hillary" was seen wearing a couch cover!!!

Who the hell cares what any one wears unless you are a free every thing
clueless liberal leech wearing a $10,000 outfit to whine about rich people not paying their fair share!!!
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you are the prototypical sucker that can't evaluate any data or info for shit and only allow in anything that confirms your bias while denying anything that doesn't as #fakenews.

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i have to go so i'm too busy to track down where you have been in support of trump's claim that millions of illegals are voting, but let's not pretend you've never cited that either k?
You're not making sense. It's a Yale/MIT study that says 22 million. Want some links? Evaluate them.

Now say I'm right and you're sorry for doubting me. Do my bidding.

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A new study by two Yale professors and an instructor at MIT puts the number of illegal aliens in America at 22.1 million — more than twice previous estimates.

Most media outlets have reported that some 11.3 million illegals live in the U.S., but researchers Edward Kaplan, Jonathan Feinstein and Mohammad Fazel‐Zarandi say that's not even close to the actual number.

"Our original idea was just to do a sanity check on the existing number," said Kaplan, a professor of operations research at Yale School of Management, according to a report in Yale Insights.

“Instead of a number which was smaller, we got a number that was 50% higher. That caused us to scratch our heads," Kaplan said.

Feinstein, professor of economics and management at Yale, added, “There’s a number that everybody quotes, but when you actually dig down and say, ‘What is it based on?’ you find it’s based on one very specific survey and possibly an approach that has some difficulties...”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36209...ds-joseph-curl

https://nationaleconomicseditorial.c...al-immigrants

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...estb-estimate

https://thehill.com/latino/407848-ya...migrants-in-us

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