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Old 01-29-2019, 11:31 PM   #19601
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Didn't pelosi just have some illegals arrested that climbed into her yard or was that a fake YB thread???


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An activist staged an "illegal aliens" moving in to Pelosi's property shoot. They were "asked" to leave. I don't think anyone was arrested.
She asked the police not to arrest them, but they were all ticketed for trespassing.
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In all fairness, they are much different.

The automation robot creates new jobs while it takes away others. Mechanical and electrical engineers that invent and maintain robots, software engineers that make them work, manufacturing plants that produce robots, maintenance workers that do simple maintenance on robots, sales people that sell robots, finance people to drive maximum profitability on robot sales, HR people to make sure none of these people are mean to each other, etc.
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In all fairness, they are much different.

The automation robot creates new jobs while it takes away others. Mechanical and electrical engineers that invent and maintain robots, software engineers that make them work, manufacturing plants that produce robots, maintenance workers that do simple maintenance on robots, sales people that sell robots, finance people to drive maximum profitability on robot sales, HR people to make sure none of these people are mean to each other, etc.
Exactly! When I was working at a manufacturing plant building driver side airbags for cars 25 years ago we had robots that did the majority of the assembly, but guess what... those robots still needed correction and maintenance (like you stated) and someone still had to feed them their parts, monitor the line, and inspect for quality. Ironically, we had put up a line to supplement the automated lines that was fully manual outside of the laser welder, and it was staffed by about 15 humans, and consistently outperformed the automated lines in production quantities, had way more uptime, and better quality. While robots will replace mundane labor like picking orders and loading trucks, humans will always be intertwined to keep them running.

Now on the subject of the construction trades, illegal immigrants (Mostly European, and Hispanic) are taking those jobs from Americans, and it absolutely kills me how some people come in here and comment with such authority when they've never lived in, or worked in the trades in a border state.

As a 25 year resident in the construction trades, in Arizona, I'd be more than happy to sit down with anyone here and have a civil discussion about how illegal immigrants affect the US, and why border protection is badly needed.

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In all fairness, they are much different.

The automation robot creates new jobs while it takes away others. Mechanical and electrical engineers that invent and maintain robots, software engineers that make them work, manufacturing plants that produce robots, maintenance workers that do simple maintenance on robots, sales people that sell robots, finance people to drive maximum profitability on robot sales, HR people to make sure none of these people are mean to each other, etc.
not that much different. you are saying [x] allows for higher skilled jobs to expand as well as associated work.

you listed x above for technology but the same is true for labor as well. some of the work didn't get outsourced to robots in the US but labor in china. same thing happens - we have more engineers and designers here that can leverage the larger and cheaper labor pool that can enable more things to be made. aside from that, *complex* manufacturing is still a big thing in this country. low skilled immigrants get integrated into verticals too. and as we have already seen, chasing them out results in disastrous consequences, not big benefits, ie. agricultural examples.

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Exactly! When I was working at a manufacturing plant building driver side airbags for cars 25 years ago we had robots that did the majority of the assembly, but guess what... those robots still needed correction and maintenance (like you stated) and someone still had to feed them their parts, monitor the line, and inspect for quality. Ironically, we had put up a line to supplement the automated lines that was fully manual outside of the laser welder, and it was staffed by about 15 humans, and consistently outperformed the automated lines in production quantities, had way more uptime, and better quality. While robots will replace mundane labor like picking orders and loading trucks, humans will always be intertwined to keep them running.
it is the same effect as far as the cold hard economy is concerned, you just sound like a luddite if you want to ban technology. if you think that joe 6 pack should be entitled to a job for life though, why not protest the machine taking the labor just as you would an illegal? especially since 1 man can generally only take 1 man's worth of labor, while a machine can take the labor of 100 men?

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Now on the subject of the construction trades, illegal immigrants (Mostly European, and Hispanic) are taking those jobs from Americans, and it absolutely kills me how some people come in here and comment with such authority when they've never lived in, or worked in the trades in a border state.
some of the states with the most construction growth are borders states like texas and cali. shop has not been taught in school for a while and kids are told to go pay 100k to get a 2.7 GPA degree in "communications" in college or else they will be a loser. illegal labor probably did a lot more depressing wages than it did actually taking a jerb from a 'murican. nonetheless there seems to be a real gap in the construction industry for skilled and even entry level workers. one of the possible classic ways to solve this is... more immigration...

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As a 25 year resident in the construction trades, in Arizona, I'd be more than happy to sit down with anyone here and have a civil discussion about how illegal immigrants affect the US, and why border protection is badly needed.

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but who would you be talking to that would take the other side of this point? i don't know if i've seen a single member of tcg claim that we should not have secure borders or have no borders at all or freely flowing illegal immigration.

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An activist staged an "illegal aliens" moving in to Pelosi's property shoot. They were "asked" to leave. I don't think anyone was arrested.
So why the hell not???
The reporter found some actual POS criminals, they climbed over pelosi's wall, it shouldn't have been up to her, they were criminals!!!
We all know she had to pretend she wasn't pissed off, but why didn't the police do their damn job, which is not giving a criminal a ticket and leaving!!!

Geesh, what an idiotic state!!!!


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Trump calls out his own appointed Intel Chiefs in a tweet. Letting the whole world know he thinks our intelligence services are garbage. Confusing the shit out of our allies I'm sure. If we have any. Seems like we've lost a lot of friends. If anyone in the world wasn't laughing at us already, they are now. All you hear from conservotards is "Support our Troops" and "Back the Badge" unless those people with the troops or wearing a badge are after Trump or opposed to him; then it turns into...wait wait wait, the FBI sucks! Guys neighbor is a Democrat! Agency is tainted! CIA don't know squat! and "CIA, those letters are pretty close to CNN!" screaming fake fake... Trump supporters have been brain washed to the max. fuck dump finds people that have devoted their lives to national security, that he then appoints, and then publicly calls idiots. That's our president, president fuck dump, expert on everything again. Expert on Iran, nuclear energy and materials, North Korea, forest fires, climate change, military, the list goes on and on. Mother fucker can't admit he's wrong so he's gonna drag you down with him. It doesn't suit his racist agenda the his wall isn't #1 on the list....so better to call his own people Idiots. fuck dump goes to 1 meeting with North Korea and says YEP. That's it. No more nukes. Ummm...what? Are you that gullible? As gullible as his supporters I guess.

You can't make this shit up! Amazing.

Who the FUKKK would want to work for a POS like Trump. He just needs to replace his staff with a bunch of parrots.

I'm sure our allies are as confused as ever. Do we really have allies anymore? We got Putin, he's cool, he drinks, he knows what's going down tonight.

Conservotards are so proud that they elected this anti-status-quo clown. He's different...not part of the establishment, he's gonna drain the swamp, I don't care if he assaults women, pays hookers, and sucks Russias dick. He's our leader... Brain washed sheep. ohhh He's different... he sparkles like fools gold... follow the sparkly man.

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https://gizmodo.com/foxconn-admits-i...sin-1832193977

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In all fairness, they are much different.

The automation robot creates new jobs while it takes away others. Mechanical and electrical engineers that invent and maintain robots, software engineers that make them work, manufacturing plants that produce robots, maintenance workers that do simple maintenance on robots, sales people that sell robots, finance people to drive maximum profitability on robot sales, HR people to make sure none of these people are mean to each other, etc.
Until the robots start making the robots and programming the robots. 1337 Chess.

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Its still far off, but if Foxconn finishes the plant and even assembles anything stateside, it could be cheaper products for some items that we use. Its still a ways away from even being a thing.

On the other hand, Wisconsin seems to have terrible luck. Stephen Avery and now Foxconn.
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Trump calls out his own appointed Intel Chiefs in a tweet. Letting the whole world know he thinks our intelligence services are garbage. Confusing the shit out of our allies I'm sure. If we have any. Seems like we've lost a lot of friends. If anyone in the world wasn't laughing at us already, they are now. All you hear from conservotards is "Support our Troops" and "Back the Badge" unless those people with the troops or wearing a badge are after Trump or opposed to him; then it turns into...wait wait wait, the FBI sucks! Guys neighbor is a Democrat! Agency is tainted! CIA don't know squat! and "CIA, those letters are pretty close to CNN!" screaming fake fake... Trump supporters have been brain washed to the max. fuck dump finds people that have devoted their lives to national security, that he then appoints, and then publicly calls idiots. That's our president, president fuck dump, expert on everything again. Expert on Iran, nuclear energy and materials, North Korea, forest fires, climate change, military, the list goes on and on. Mother fucker can't admit he's wrong so he's gonna drag you down with him. It doesn't suit his racist agenda the his wall isn't #1 on the list....so better to call his own people Idiots. fuck dump goes to 1 meeting with North Korea and says YEP. That's it. No more nukes. Ummm...what? Are you that gullible? As gullible as his supporters I guess.

You can't make this shit up! Amazing.

Who the FUKKK would want to work for a POS like Trump. He just needs to replace his staff with a bunch of parrots.

I'm sure our allies are as confused as ever. Do we really have allies anymore? We got Putin, he's cool, he drinks, he knows what's going down tonight.

Conservotards are so proud that they elected this anti-status-quo clown. He's different...not part of the establishment, he's gonna drain the swamp, I don't care if he assaults women, pays hookers, and sucks Russias dick. He's our leader... Brain washed sheep. ohhh He's different... he sparkles like fools gold... follow the sparkly man.

Emote much?

You seem to use emotional arguments based on questionable, at best, proof.

You make no attempt to understand why the President does what he does.

If a group is brainwashed, IMO, it is the DEM party. Liberal on the outside, run by the same old billionaires on the inside.

The means don't matter as long as YOU CAN GET TRUMP!

TDS disorder is popping up in this thread.
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Until the robots start making the robots and programming the robots. 1337 Chess.
Thats when Skynet kills us all
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Seems like most of the fake news is only running with part of the story. That said, Foxconn is an evil evil company and should never be trusted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.578eb92064f9

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The left losing their shit over that tweet goes along with what people have been saying on here for years now. Trumps supporters take him serious but not literally, while his haters take him literally but not serious.

Yahoo had all these headlines about how scientists have weighed in to prove Donald Trump wrong about global warming.
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Once again Trump is the biggest troll and people just lose their minds time after time...lol
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Oh that’s right he is not ignorant he is just trolling!!
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Trump's ignorant and he's trolling.

When life on earth becomes intolerable for human beings, maybe in 12 or thousands or millions of years, you can let Trump know it's his fault.
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Antifa DC boss arrested in attack on Marines. Fired from Progressive non profit.

Serious charges.

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Trump's ignorant and he's trolling.

When life on earth becomes intolerable for human beings, maybe in 12 or thousands or millions of years, you can let Trump know it's his fault.

Nobody knows what the hell PRESIDENT Trump actually believes, hell, I doubt he knows what he thinks about a lot of this stuff!!!

Yet again, he's still 1000 times better than having "THE" most corrupt criminal,
despicable excuse of a human being in American Presidential history in charge raping us & stealing every nickle she can get her hands on!!!!

and there's still no intelligent reason to "EVER" vote for a liberal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care what kind of POS PRESIDENT Trump is!!!!

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Cherie DeVille is the first candidate to drop out of the DEM primaries. she has endorsed Bernie Sanders.



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The late term abortion thing is pretty fucked up. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to abort a baby late term. Just give it up for adoption at that point.

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