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Old 11-24-2015, 07:49 PM   #226
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the states attorney should be accountable for 13 months of "investigation" when most police shooting investigations are said to be tee'd up for the prosecutors office within weeks.

Also everyone involved using TAX payer dollars, 5 MILLION to be exact, to pay the family off and try to seal the tape should be charged to the fullest extent.
You forgot legal fees to try and suppress the video unsuccessfully.

I'd like to know how long this one sat with the feds, and if part of that is the whole Burger King evidence tampering accusations. If so, I'd like to know where the other indictments are.
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someone go nudge the protesters to protest the real issues with Illinois corruption
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But to speak to the video a bit...hard to justify that shooting at all...dude was high and had a knife, no questioning that (at least nobody is disputing that I guess...) but goes back to whether deadly force is justified. @Eagle had found that nifty chart about when deadly force is justified...to me, this just does not seem like a situation where deadly force is necessary whatsoever. Kid definitely broke the law by being high, but that is not a death sentence...whether he was going to be a drain on society or not is not an officers position to determine right there. He has no authority, in this situation, to determine whether someone should live or die. Officer deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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Kid may have been a POS.

But that officer crossed the line.

What a terrible situation to be in. Adrenalin pumping, cop is probably thinking he doesn't want to become a statistic and perhaps he wanted to only fire one or two shots but couldn't physically stop himself. Got caught in the moment. No excuse though.

Shits going to hit the fan.
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But to speak to the video a bit...hard to justify that shooting at all...dude was high and had a knife, no questioning that (at least nobody is disputing that I guess...) but goes back to whether deadly force is justified. @Eagle had found that nifty chart about when deadly force is justified...to me, this just does not seem like a situation where deadly force is necessary whatsoever. Kid definitely broke the law by being high, but that is not a death sentence...whether he was going to be a drain on society or not is not an officers position to determine right there. He has no authority, in this situation, to determine whether someone should live or die. Officer deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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also how did a toxicology results come back in 6 seconds? finding out he was under the influence after the fact means almost nothing in this case. If this kid made any aggressive move what so ever at towards an officer with knife in hand, this would have been completely justified.
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Had not seen that...still doesn't really justify anything because he wasn't an immediate threat to any officer or the public. Unless I missed that bus full of orphans he was walking up on
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This dudes family got hustled . They could have gone for 15 mill. Like bomb boy is doing .
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The bike police do a really good job.

Horses out yet?
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kindly go down there and let them know they are overreacting.
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The bike police do a really good job.

Horses out yet?
Chicago does not have a "peaceful" history with demonstrators :cough: '68 democratic national convention :cough:
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Holy shit, no PCP in his system? Where did that information come from then if he was not high?
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kindly go down there and let them know they are overreacting.
I forsee a lawsuit and protest for tonight's police street protest overreaction .
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This dudes family got hustled . They could have gone for 15 mill. Like bomb boy is doing .
My boss and I were talking about that today. Family took the settlement way too fast. Could have probably gotten at least 15 million.
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that was pretty bad, from that video's POV the officers actions look a bit excessive. OK Way the fuck out of hand.
One shot -> BAM, kid goes down & then he unloads 15 more times.

Murder, Guilty ~ 20 years to life.

Hopefully they do not destroy their own neighborhoods over this.
I think the first series of shots would have killed him WITHOUT the second series.

Shooting him at all seems like it wasn't necessary, sort of like all the other squads on the scene had decided.... Until JVD showed up on the scene and started firing seconds after getting out of his squad.
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Holy shit, no PCP in his system? Where did that information come from then if he was not high?
didn't even scroll over to the negative part...whoops
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My boss and I were talking about that today. Family took the settlement way too fast. Could have probably gotten at least 15 million.
I could see that, but it wasn't a settlement as much as hush money.
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I would also like to see toxicology reports on the cop. Pretty sure they are required to take drug/alcohol test when involved in a shooting.
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didn't even scroll over to the negative part...whoops
Yeah crazy shit.
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I would also like to see toxicology reports on the cop. Pretty sure they are required to take drug/alcohol test when involved in a shooting.
See above.....not sure if that is the full report.
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I could see that, but it wasn't a settlement as much as hush money.
I could agree with that. My boss also said he thought he read or heard that the family gave this kid up to the state as they couldn't handle his behavior. So it's possible they didn't give 2 fucks and just saw dollar signs.
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See above.....not sure if that is the full report.
That's for the kid, I want to see the cops toxicology report.
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Might show pcp to be that quick on the trigger
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