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Old 01-08-2015, 08:24 PM   #1
 
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Obama To Propose Free Community College Program

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Thursday announced a proposal that President Barack Obama said would make community college "free for everybody who is willing to work for it." But administration officials provided no details about the program's costs or where the money would come to pay for it.
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he White House did say that if all states participated, that nine million students could benefit — saving on average $3,800 in tuition per year for a full-time student. That means the program could cost in the billions of dollars. In a Republican-led Congress, the proposal likely faces a tough legislative fight to be passed.
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Under the proposal, participating students would be expected to maintain a modest grade point average and participating schools would have to meet certain academic requirements. States would opt in to the program and put up a fraction of the funding.
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Free? For taxpayers too?
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What's a moderate gpa? I'd say min 3.0?
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I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I'm all for improving education in our country. From my experiences through elementary school, undergrad, and now grad school, I feel like our education system is slipping. Our school systems are really starting to lack in math and science programs. I graduated with a BS in Mechanical Engineering 3 years ago. Before I even had my official completed transcript, I had several job opportunities. It seemed like there were more jobs than graduates. I basically had my pick of where I wanted to work.

If this country wants to stay competitive in engineering and innovation, improvements need to be made. Our tax dollars could be wasted on worse things.
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Work for it!? Sorry... Wrong generation. No takers.
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Great, so now I get to pay for a bunch of fucking idiots to take more English and History classes that won't amount to anything. College needs to be seen as a stepping stone into a specific career. If the student sees it this way, then they should have no fucking problem taking on a small loan for 2 years of community college. If they don't see it this way, then quit wasting everybody else's time and money.
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In my district, the top 10% of my high school graduating class could attend our local community college for free. If this passes and they mandate that the students must maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher, I'm okay with it.
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In my district, the top 10% of my high school graduating class could attend our local community college for free. If this passes and they mandate that the students must maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher, I'm okay with it.
Except that a lot of people will be taking easy, worthless classes that won't lead them anywhere
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Great, so now I get to pay for a bunch of fucking idiots to take more English and History classes that won't amount to anything. College needs to be seen as a stepping stone into a specific career. If the student sees it this way, then they should have no fucking problem taking on a small loan for 2 years of community college. If they don't see it this way, then quit wasting everybody else's time and money.
plenty of other countries start you out even far before college on specific tracks and skillsets. i'd prefer that to this. or more training opportunities for those looking for work.
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Getting rid of a lot of the gen eds for bachelor's degree programs would be a good start. 1/2 of the classes I took in my freshman and sophomore years were a waste of time.
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Oh look. More talk of "free" shit but no actual solutions to any of our current problems.

I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked.

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Oh look. More talk of "free" shit but no actual solutions to any of our current problems.

I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked.

But its free dawg
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plenty of other countries start you out even far before college on specific tracks and skillsets. i'd prefer that to this. or more training opportunities for those looking for work.

This is very accurate. My last trip to Germany one of the guys had to take his 12-13 year old and decide what they were going to do. College, trade etc. he left early apparently it's a process.
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Here's my thing with higher education.

If I want to be a nurse, engineer , accountant, whatever. I should be taking classes and only classes that focus in that area. That's what draws me away from a degree. To me it's just a way to get $ out of you for some stupid shit you'll never use or need.

History of yadda yadda is not going to do shit for a nurse or engineer.
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Great more "free" government programs.

Is the money to pay for this going to come out of Obama's private stash of cash?

You want to get a higher education? Pay for it like the rest of us had to...
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Im almost done paying my community college debt. In my experience, isn't the school pretty much already free for low income people? I had two semesters where I got enough grants to pay for the entire semester, one of wich I even got a $300 check after everything was payed for.

What's the diffrence now? Many people at the college were going for free. Does this mean people who can afford it now will get it for free?
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Im almost done paying my community college debt. In my experience, isn't the school pretty much already free for low income people? I had two semesters where I got enough grants to pay for the entire semester, one of wich I even got a $300 check after everything was payed for.

What's the diffrence now? Many people at the college were going for free. Does this mean people who can afford it now will get it for free?


grants cover a LOT of college for low income students... FAFSA
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Here's my thing with higher education.

If I want to be a nurse, engineer , accountant, whatever. I should be taking classes and only classes that focus in that area. That's what draws me away from a degree. To me it's just a way to get $ out of you for some stupid shit you'll never use or need.

History of yadda yadda is not going to do shit for a nurse or engineer.
I don't 100% agree. My wife is a nurse and she obviously had to take nursing classes, clinicals, etc. I firmly believe that finance classes should be required for EVERY major as it's a critical everyday life necessity. Certain things should be taught as they make you a more well rounded person and ultimately employee.
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You'd be surprised how well my paper for my sophomore history class on the French Revolution has helped me in my job at a mortgage company as a secondary markets analyst. Wayyyyyy more so than my classes in my major (Finance) and minor (Real Estate)
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Also to qualify you cannot have any felonies as well as any drug or alcohol related incidents. You have to maintain a C average, although you can drop out of the class near the halfway point and it doesnt count towards your GPA.

Not to mention, I work with and have worked with a few Mexican imigrants that had no papers (other than the freebie stuff you get at the DMV) and they were not eligble for any grants. They were kind, hard working, and inteligent people. They spoke fluent english, attended high school here, and were not criminals. They went to work (with a work permit that they have to pay $600 annualy for) and paid taxes (without any tax return). They obviously had no way to apply for fafsa. Meaning, with their basic job they really struggled to go to school and work at the same time.

Not trying to sound like a bleeding heart, but it pisses me off to see someone wasting time and tax payer's dollars taking BS classes who really do not deserve it. I'm not going to backup illegals, but if you speak fluent english, are not a crimnal, already pay taxes, and want to better yourself wouldn't you want that person to have the opportunity to go to the local community college for a shot at a next level education? Were not talking about universitys here.
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