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Old 01-04-2011, 10:04 AM   #376
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hubbard, if i may make a different suggestion than eagle....i too used to walk / run 1st to get the blood flowing then lift.
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2 of my buddies who are lifting / health nuts said i was backwards.
this makes sense -
when you lift, you burn up muscle glycogen ( sugar / carbs to make it simple )
now, once you have exhausted muscle glycogen, and get on the treadmill / bike / elliptical you will be using fat for energy.

i would make sure your diet is on track. you can lift and run all you want but if your diet is shit, you wont see any results.

diet is # 1
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:07 AM   #377
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hubbard, if i may make a different suggestion than eagle....i too used to walk / run 1st to get the blood flowing then lift.
but
2 of my buddies who are lifting / health nuts said i was backwards.
this makes sense -
when you lift, you burn up muscle glycogen ( sugar / carbs to make it simple )
now, once you have exhausted muscle glycogen, and get on the treadmill / bike / elliptical you will be using fat for energy.

i would make sure your diet is on track. you can lift and run all you want but if your diet is shit, you wont see any results.

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Backwards eh? Interesting.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:09 AM   #378
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eags,

try it for a week or 2, let me know if you notice a difference.
i was losing 2 lbs a week for 10-12 weeks. then hit a brick wall. tried to up the cardio and change up the diet, but could only maintain.

sucked, but it worked while it lasted
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:11 AM   #379
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Nuts. We always do the "ab ripper" P90x routine before lifting as it is - which is about 17min long... and def gets your heart going. But it's all core and legs. Wonder if I should hit the bike first for awhile.

Food for thought.
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I do 10 min or so of cardio before my buddy gets to the gym, we lift and finish the workout with 25-30min of cadio.

Still working on getting a solid diet going. I would say Im about 75%
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Lifting before cardio is good. Also you are not as tired when you lift.
When I am fully in my routine: Stretch, Abs, Lift, Cario. Sometimes abs will be last depending on how packed the gym is.
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Lifting before cardio is good. Also you are not as tired when you lift.
When I am fully in my routine: Stretch, Abs, Lift, Cario. Sometimes abs will be last depending on how packed the gym is.
That's what I do now.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:20 AM   #384
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eh abs.............

shitty thing is i have a fitness center in my subdivision and by the time i get home, sip my superpump, lift, i just want to eat and relax.......never get over there to get on the ellipticial.
it was easier to get on the treadmill @ my parents.
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RE: Abs



Been doing this, minus the standing up, and the day after it hurt to sneeze. Food for thought. I usually throw leg lifts in while doing the crunch w/ the 45lbs weight in hands.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:26 AM   #386
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Good gawd damn. Those look rough.
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I've heard of P90x thing, but don't know anythign about it. Is it just a routine? A video I need to buy?

Diet I think will be hard for me. I love eating. I'm commited to not eating fast food again, but I don't eat breakfast, and lunch is usually some microwave made frozen meal. Usually I have dinner at home and it's a well rounded meal. My schedule is erratic though and I probably eat at home only 3 or 4 times a week.

Not a good start, I know.

I too, like having a workout plan instead of fumbling around. And I'll start doing my lifting before cardio from now on and see how it goes.

How do you guys track progress? I haven't really found a great app or anything that is perfect and carrying a notebook would be a pain.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:39 AM   #389
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I'm quite convinced also that working out is MUCH easier when you have someone to work out with. Not just to push you during the actual workout, but to also push you to get to the gym in the first place on the days when you're thinking of just skipping it.
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I'd always do cardio 1st, then lift...

Hubbard: ever consider starting a log? Include exercises, weight and sets/reps (or duration/difficulty if its cardio). It's a great way to track progess and keep organized. You dont need to carry a notebook with you, but I never had a problem going home and typing it up on memory.
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I'd prefer to keep a log. But I wouldn't be able to remember how many reps and how much weight for each rep I did for every exercise that day.

I recall using gymtechnik on my blackberry and that was pretty good. Then moved to Jeffit for my android phone and that was ok, but overly confusing.

Might go back to gymtechnik and actually pay for the service.
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I'm quite convinced also that working out is MUCH easier when you have someone to work out with. Not just to push you during the actual workout, but to also push you to get to the gym in the first place on the days when you're thinking of just skipping it.
I absolutely agree. I usually enjoy being at the gym once i'm there, but getting there is super tough for me and to make it worse my gym is in my neighborhood, maybe .5 mile away.
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Devote 3 days to the gym every week.

Personally, Ive been going Monday-Wednesday and maybe one day over the weekend.
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tracking progress - weighing in the same time / day every week.
saturday morning is a good idea, after a dump is best.

if you are trying to build muscle and lose fat, your scale weight may not change much.
skin fold calipers help measure body fat, but to keep it simple, get a soft tape measure and measure arms at rest and flexed, same for stomach at rest and sucked in.
do this for all major muscle groups, legs, arms, neck, back/chest.

and if you eat out alot due to necessity, grilled chicken salads are the way to go.
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I'm not going to go as far as measuring individual body parts. Overall weight and appearance are all I care for.
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sometimes you may not "look different" and your weight says you only lost 1 lb.

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if you are down 3 inches in your waist and 1/4" up on biceps size....this would track progress, but do whatever you are comfortable with
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I get what you're saying completely. But I'll notice those changes when my jeans get looser or go up in weights.

When I first started working out, which I guess would be around this time last year, I was at 230 and over 4-6 months I got just below 200, increased my running distance and time, and of course was lifting more.

I then went on a summer bender and I'm back at 210. Time to get in shape before I move and adjust lifestyle to maintain myself.
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