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Old 11-29-2017, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default You're Trump - What do you do with NK?

So NK launched another missile yesterday and they're posturing up with folks in Cuba in all likeliness to get some of their missiles located there.

You're Trump. What do you do?

Answers can be elaborate or simple as you'd like. I had an interesting conversation with a train buddy this morning that got me thinking about what I would do, so here I am polling TCG for their response to the same question.

I won't provide my thoughts initially as I don't want them to form the basis for other responses.

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It really feels like a lose lose situation. You donít want to be seen by the rest of the world as someone who started another war, but you also do not want to continue to provide empty threats.

Honestly if it was possible I would look into options to take him out. Send in a covert team to remove Kim from power.

Then there is another side of me that says the time is come, eliminate them period.

Itís a tough spot and I wouldnít wish this on anyone. But I think the best action would be to assassinate Kim
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Don't you think that nukes are really no longer an option in the current world? The international community would literally laugh us off the planet. We're the ones running around the world to places like NK and Iran trying to control access to nuke power and weapons as well as trying to reduce the current number of existing weapons out there...
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It really feels like a lose lose situation. You donít want to be seen by the rest of the world as someone who started another war, but you also do not want to continue to provide empty threats.

Honestly if it was possible I would look into options to take him out. Send in a covert team to remove Kim from power.

Then there is another side of me that says the time is come, eliminate them period.

Itís a tough spot and I wouldnít wish this on anyone. But I think the best action would be to assassinate Kim
Decent response. We discussed an assassination this morning as an option as well. I don't really think the country would continue its current path if the Kim dynasty was "removed."
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Special Forces, CIA, NSA, etc move is the only "clean" way. Everything else is messier.

That being said I feel like this is Vietnam, again...
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I honestly think that's (removing Kim from power, stealthily) the most logical response, but I also think that's 20 years of video gaming in me as well
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Agree with others, take out Fat Boy.
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I also feel like that can go terribly wrong, very fast. Let's say we fail, or take out one of his clones or whatever the fuck he's got over there, do you think he'd take that lightly? I feel like that would actually start another war.
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Assassination would be the best bet but they better nail it.
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Special Forces, CIA, NSA, etc move is the only "clean" way. Everything else is messier.

That being said I feel like this is Vietnam, again...
See, we had that contention as well. We're sticking our heads in where we don't really belong.... and WHY even? Because he's firing missiles? He hasn't HIT anything yet.

I personally say we just completely pull the F outta everywhere in that region. We have no horse in the race there. Let NK do with SK whatever is best for overall K and whatever happens happens. We go under the guise of humanitarian concerns, but who are we to set and enforce that standard? Isn't that what the UN is for? Why are we there exclusively enforcing this shit?
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Don't you think that nukes are really no longer an option in the current world? The international community would literally laugh us off the planet. We're the ones running around the world to places like NK and Iran trying to control access to nuke power and weapons as well as trying to reduce the current number of existing weapons out there...
It was a joke.

Pretty sure we are doing it with the help of the UN.

Funny thing about the "international community" is no one wants to get their hands dirty directly, they worry and complain about things, then when the US steps in, all they do is complain even more that we are "policing the world" when it's pretty much what they wanted from the beginning.

The only time I even care about what foreign entities say or think is if they pose an imminent threat to the USA. If it's just bickering and temper tantrums, I could not care less what they have to say.
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What about the rest of the Kim family?
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See, we had that contention as well. We're sticking our heads in where we don't really belong.... and WHY even? Because he's firing missiles? He hasn't HIT anything yet.

I personally say we just completely pull the F outta everywhere in that region. We have no horse in the race there. Let NK do with SK whatever is best for overall K and whatever happens happens. We go under the guise of humanitarian concerns, but who are we to set and enforce that standard? Isn't that what the UN is for? Why are we there exclusively enforcing this shit?
Question, are you cool with people firing guns in public in the air or at the ground? If they don't hit anything, it's none of our business right?

Just playing devils advocate here.
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Question, are you cool with people firing guns in public in the air or at the ground? If they don't hit anything, it's none of our business right?

Just playing devils advocate here.
if they are thousands of miles away, and can't hit me, yeah I don't care.
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It was a joke.

Pretty sure we are doing it with the help of the UN.

Funny thing about the "international community" is no one wants to get their hands dirty directly, they worry and complain about things, then when the US steps in, all they do is complain even more that we are "policing the world" when it's pretty much what they wanted from the beginning.

The only time I even care about what foreign entities say or think is if they pose an imminent threat to the USA. If it's just bickering and temper tantrums, I could not care less what they have to say.
The more we spoke about it, the more we both came to the conclusion that it appears obvious to us at least, that the rest of the larger world powers are maneuvering to remove us from #1 global power by playing a massive game of chess and screwing us into becoming terribly overburdened with obligations and eventually causing us either to 1. implode on ourselves with debt or 2. finally provoke someone else far enough to actually act against us in a big enough way to cause us to implode on ourselves through something like a loss of utilities (power/water/etc).
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Why would Cuba partner up with NK? That seems like about the dumbest thing ever for them.
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Why would Cuba partner up with NK? That seems like about the dumbest thing ever for them.
Exactly, that is like me convincing my midget friend to get in between me and a grizzly bear.
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Question, are you cool with people firing guns in public in the air or at the ground? If they don't hit anything, it's none of our business right?

Just playing devils advocate here.
Its completely different. They're a sovereign nation, not a citizen of a lawful nation free to impose whatever rules on their citizens they deem rational.
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Why would Cuba partner up with NK? That seems like about the dumbest thing ever for them.
If Trump gained intel that they were becoming friendly with NK, that would explain the reban of Cuba travel
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Its completely different. They're a sovereign nation, not a citizen of a lawful nation free to impose whatever rules on their citizens they deem rational.
Ok, then are you OK with a person with diplomatic immunity going downtown and shooting at buildings, in the air, in the ground, w/e as long as they don't hit anyone?
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Syria, ok maybe. But Russia and Cuba? Come on man.

No one that has any brains, will want to get in bed with NK. What would Russia especially stand to gain?
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Ok, then are you OK with a person with diplomatic immunity going downtown and shooting at buildings, in the air, in the ground, w/e as long as they don't hit anyone?
They're on our soil dealing with our laws, so no.
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