Who was at fault?
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I can't believe that he convinced the court of that. The car is a full car length ahead of him with the turn signal on. It then looks like when that car comes over he closes the gap between him and the car in front of him to block him. Seems like a block to me. Then when the car coming over is closer to him, where he might not be able to finally see the car, he moves over onto the shoulder. Why move if you can't see the car. So obviously he saw the car.
But the car trying to merge was stupid to try and get over with so little room. Had that car had to make a quick reduction in speed that truck would have been in its back seat.
aggressive driving all around cost a lot of time and money for no real good reason.
The greatest comment I've seen on a car crash video: "just because you have your blinker on, it doesn't mean you can merge over with any disregard."
I'm pretty sure the statute indicates some kind of "when safe" limitation.
Indiana has it: https://www.in.gov/bmv/files/Drivers_Manual_Chapter_5.pdf
IL is ambiguous as fuck because IL: http://www.iei.illinois.edu/assets/documents/rules-of-road.pdf
Wisconsin definitely could have nailed both the dumb cunt and the truck driver: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/346/II/075
On second thought, that WI law only applies to overtaking on the left, over taking on the right only has very specific instances of being "legal". Specifically safety concerns. So dumb cunt would still be in the wrong, truck driver might skate because she tried overtaking illegally on the right.
I'd say split fault. It's obvious he saw her because he started to drive on the shoulder to keep moving. I've been guilty of blocking on several occasions. Some asshole comes flying up on my right and I can tell he's going to cut me off to get past the slower moving traffic on the right. I try and not make it too obvious. Yes, I could be causing an accident, but I don't enjoy being cut off either.
I actually did this last week on Stearns and really pissed off some white SUV. It narrows to one lane westbound after County Farm. This vehicle didn't even have a signal on, they were just going to slide in front of me and make me slam on my brakes. So I didn't yield and they started honking and flashing their lights. This person probably does that every day to get a head of other cars before the merge.
It really bothers me when people stay in the lane they know is ending because it will save them a minute or two of waiting in the lane that isn't ending. And then they expect to cut in front of you. It usually ends in a game of chicken with me. Most of the time the other people yield before me. Though I've had a few cars that would definitely have hit me had I not yielded.
I actually did this last week on Stearns and really pissed off some white SUV. It narrows to one lane westbound after County Farm. This vehicle didn't even have a signal on, they were just going to slide in front of me and make me slam on my brakes. So I didn't yield and they started honking and flashing their lights. This person probably does that every day to get a head of other cars before the merge.
It really bothers me when people stay in the lane they know is ending because it will save them a minute or two of waiting in the lane that isn't ending. And then they expect to cut in front of you. It usually ends in a game of chicken with me. Most of the time the other people yield before me. Though I've had a few cars that would definitely have hit me had I not yielded.
I would say that the VW Passat was 100% at fault. If you look at the video she's never fully in the left lane and has her vehicle in both lanes. She also brakes from 17-19 seconds causing the accident. If she had went back in her lane and slowed, the accident would have been avoided.
I really think that the trucker never saw her based on the video. There was no horn and it wasn't until almost impact that he moved over.
I really think that the trucker never saw her based on the video. There was no horn and it wasn't until almost impact that he moved over.
I'm not saying that because the car had a blinker on she was in the right.
But it is clear the use of a brain and patience could have resulted in this not happening. By both parties. lol
I had buddies that drove trucks growing up. I have seen people do shitty things to them on the road. Some straight up dumb stuff. I have also seen them act like assholes to "get the better of someone". Being on the road you have to deal with a lot of stuff. All around you.
Truck saw her trying to enter, then as she started to enter, sped up, then refused to yield to avoid a collision. As a CDL holder, driving a 80k lb+ truck for commercial purposes that guy should know better. Also note he was not keeping a proper following distance which added to the problem.
She technically had the room until he sped up, after which both had a moment they could've yielded and refused.
Both idiots, the bigger idiot being the more experienced CDL driver
She technically had the room until he sped up, after which both had a moment they could've yielded and refused.
Both idiots, the bigger idiot being the more experienced CDL driver
And I agree with you. My point was that most state's laws regarding "changing lanes" involves a "when safe to do so" limitation. If it isn't safe, you don't change lanes. It was clearly not safe for the VW to merge so she shouldn't have attempted it, period. She did anyway and caused the entire accident to happen. Anything after that is irrelevant.
Yeah except there was space there until he sped up during her advance over. It's completely possible she looked over, saw enough room, then went to come over while not realizing the guy sped up.
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So then it wasn't safe for her to change lanes.
Still at fault.
Common sense indicates that if there's barely a fender length to the next car in front of you, and a trunk length to the car behind you doing 70+ mph, it also probably isn't safe at all.
Still at fault.
Was enough room when she started coming over. Period.
Can't help it if a guy decides to punch it. That's considered attempting to run someone off the road at that point. It's especially obvious that was his attitude too when he refused to brake during any of it
She also started coming over AFTER the truck had sped up. Not paying attention.
She initiated the lane change, she is responsible for any and all actions pertaining to HER lane change. After she attempts to merge and the truck goes onto the shoulder, she STILL attempts to switch lanes. Her ACTION caused the accident because she could have just cancelled the lane change and stayed in her lane.
Still at fault.
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