How in the hell does a plane just go missing?

Ti28

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Pretty fucked up, that this day in age that a plane carrying almost 300 people can just vanish.

KUALA LUMPUR/HANOI (Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew went missing off the Vietnamese coast on Saturday as it flew from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and was presumed to have crashed.

There were no reports of bad weather and no sign why the Boeing 777-200ER, powered by Rolls-Royce Trent engines, would have vanished from radar screens about an hour after take-off.

By nightfall in the region, there were no signs of the plane or any wreckage, some 17 hours after it went missing.

A large number of planes and ships from several countries were scouring the area where the plane last made contact, about halfway between Malaysia and the southern tip of Vietnam.

"The search and rescue operations will continue as long as necessary," Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters in Kuala Lumpur. He said 15 air force aircraft, six navy ships and three coast guard vessels had been pressed into service by Malaysia.

Vietnam on Saturday dispatched two navy boats from Phu Quoc island and sent two jets and one helicopter from Ho Chi Minh City to search for the missing airliner. It was readying a further seven planes and nine boats to join the search effort.

China, and the Philippines have also sent ships to the region to help. The United States, the Philippines, and Singapore also dispatched military planes to help in the search.

China has also put other ships and aircraft on standby, said Transport Minister Yang Chuantang.

Vietnamese state media, quoting a senior naval official, had reported that the plane had crashed off south Vietnam. Malaysia's transport minister later denied any crash scene had been identified.

"We are doing everything in our power to locate the plane.

We are doing everything we can to ensure every possible angle has been addressed," Transport Minister Hishamuddin Hussein told reporters near the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

"We are looking for accurate information from the Malaysian military. They are waiting for information from the Vietnamese side," he said.

Vietnamese Admiral Ngo Van Phat later qualified his earlier remarks about a crash site having been identified and told Reuters he was referring to a presumed location beneath the plane's flight path, using information supplied by Malaysia.

A crash, if confirmed, would likely mark the U.S.-built airliner's deadliest incident since entering service 19 years ago.

The plane, aged over 11 years, disappeared without giving a distress signal - a chilling echo of an Air France flight that crashed into the South Atlantic on June 1, 2009, killing all 228 people on board. It vanished for hours and wreckage was found only two days later.

Search and rescue vessels from the Malaysian maritime enforcement agency reached the area where the plane last made contact at about 4:30 p.m. local time (0330 ET) but saw no sign of wreckage, a Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency told Reuters.

VANISHED AFTER REACHING 35,000 FEET

Flight MH370 last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu, Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said in a statement.

The airline said people from 14 nationalities were among the 227 passengers, including at least at least 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans.

"The Australian government fears the worst for those aboard missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370," a spokeswoman for Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said.

Flight tracking website flightaware.com showed the plane flew northeast over Malaysia after takeoff and climbed to an altitude of 35,000 feet. The flight vanished from the website's tracking records a minute later while it was still climbing.

"EXTREMELY WORRIED"

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing that China was "extremely worried" about the fate of the plane and those on board.

Chinese relatives of passengers angrily accused the airline of keeping them in the dark, while state media criticized the carrier's poor response.

"There's no one from the company here, we can't find a single person. They've just shut us in this room and told us to wait," said one middle-aged man at a hotel near Beijing airport where the relatives were taken.

"We want someone to show their face. They haven't even given us the passenger list," he said.

Another relative, trying to evade a throng of reporters, muttered: "They're treating us worse than dogs."

In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Airlines told passengers' next of kin to come to the international airport with their passports to prepare to fly to the crash site, which has still not been identified.

About 20-30 families were being kept in a holding room at the airport, where they were being guarded by security officials and kept away from reporters.

The flight left Kuala Lumpur around 12:40 a.m. (1640 GMT Friday) and was due to land in the Chinese capital at 6:30 a.m. (2230 GMT Friday) the same day.

Malaysia Airlines has one of the best safety records among full-service carriers in the Asia-Pacific region.

It identified the pilot of MH370 as Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a 53-year-old Malaysian who joined the carrier in 1981 and has 18,365 hours of flight experience.

Chinese state media said 24 Chinese artists and family members, who were in Kuala Lumpur for an art exchange program, were aboard. The Sichuan provincial government said Zhang Jinquan, a well-known calligrapher, was on the flight.

If it is confirmed that the plane crashed, the loss would mark the second fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in less than a year and by far the worst since the jet entered service in 1995.

An Asiana Airlines Boeing 777-200ER crash-landed in San Francisco in July 2013, killing three passengers and injuring more than 180.

Boeing said it was monitoring the situation but had no further comment. The flight was operating as a China Southern Airlines codeshare.

Malaysia Airlines plane missing at sea off Vietnam, presumed crashed - Page 2 - chicagotribune.com
 

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Probably catastrophic failure or terrorism. This does happen every few years, then a few months later they finally find the wreckage on the bottom of the ocean. I just watched a documenary about another flight during a transatlantic journey that did the same. Took years to find the black box. But they did determine the cause.... Still wont bring anyone back.
 

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Probably catastrophic failure or terrorism. This does happen every few years, then a few months later they finally find the wreckage on the bottom of the ocean. I just watched a documenary about another flight during a transatlantic journey that did the same. Took years to find the black box. But they did determine the cause.... Still wont bring anyone back.


Was that the air France documentary? If so that was crazy how they figured it out how ice froze over the air speed indicators.

Usually you would see some pieces floating around like the twa plane. But right now there is nothing
 

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Complete and utter media BS... Lets just say the planes GPS and black box were removed or not working for argument purposes. Out of the nearly 300 people on that plane none of them have cellphones that could be tracked?...

They know what happened to it, theres something else going on.


If they did crash in the ocean track how? No signal over the ocean from towers and if the phone is underwater and deep in the ocean it's toast.

Now I am saying this only if they did crash into the ocean and not on land
 

VenomousDSG

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If they did crash in the ocean track how? No signal over the ocean from towers and if the phone is underwater and deep in the ocean it's toast.

Now I am saying this only if they did crash into the ocean and not on land

GPS is tracked through satellites, NOT cellphone towers. You could be out in the middle of fucking Egypt and a signal can be picked up by the satellite.

Not to mention they make GPS bag trackers now that a lot of people put in their bags so they don' get lost. You can track those also. I'm positive out of 250+ people at least one person on that plane has one.

So lets see. Black box, plane GPS, passenger cellphones, and bag GPS devices, and they can't pick up a single signal from anything?!?! Give me a break.
 

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The whole fucking thing is fucked up. A) dont trust media B) passengers passports just stolen? So who the fuck on the plane? C) sorry, big ol' 777 just poof, gone? Now they see oil slicks and they have fsmily meeting at hotels and can't figure this shit out?

Shit not right. Crazy coo-coo charlie.
 

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GPS is tracked through satellites, NOT cellphone towers. You could be out in the middle of fucking Egypt and a signal can be picked up by the satellite.

Not to mention they make GPS bag trackers now that a lot of people put in their bags so they don' get lost. You can track those also. I'm positive out of 250+ people at least one person on that plane has one.

So lets see. Black box, plane GPS, passenger cellphones, and bag GPS devices, and they can't pick up a single signal from anything?!?! Give me a break.

Your getting it backwards, your phones Gps uses the satellites to find its own location( the satellites send out a constant signal of where they are, and your phone/Gps just listens to the signal and figures out where it is in relation to the signal) . The satellite doesn't track your phone. And when police/not track your phone it is either via the signal, or via the phone announcing it's location back to the carrier. Both of those require your phone to have a link to a cell tower.

The exception is if you have a satellite phone. Which very few people do. You need to put your tinfoil hat back on about being tracked via gps
 

rocket5979

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Complete and utter media BS... Lets just say the planes GPS and black box were removed or not working for argument purposes. Out of the nearly 300 people on that plane none of them have cellphones that could be tracked?...

They know what happened to it, theres something else going on.





Cellphones lose signal at roughly 10,000-15,000 feet of altitude above land. It's just how their antennas, and the towers they are connected to, work. I would be quite doubtful that their phones could indeed be tracked if they were even on because they could not connect to any network that would allow them to send their location signal to; let alone that they were over an ocean without cell towers.
 
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