this popped up on google news today
Trial begins for man charged in Hoffman Estates street racing deaths - chicagotribune.com
Trial begins for man charged in Hoffman Estates street racing deaths - chicagotribune.com
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"Under questioning by defense attorneys, both witnesses said they could not place Salvesen’s Subaru at the scene of the crash or identify Salvesen as the driver."
That sucks... It's a sobering reminder that the stuff we've probably all done can end you at any point.
Truth be told though, it sounds like the person that should be charged is the person who's dead. Joe is the one that lost control of his car and hit the other car. This guy at best was participating in a street race and left the scene of an accident he apparently wasn't involved in.
Charging him for street racing is one thing but it sounds like they're trying to stick Joe's charges on the only person that left the event alive.
Please don't crucify me. If you see it differently please explain why.
Timothy Salvesen, 39, is charged with leaving the scene of a fatal accident and aggravated street racing
Its not like they charged him with manslaughter or anything, he participated in a street race that resulted in 2 deaths.
The charges seem to be adequate in my eyes....
That sucks... It's a sobering reminder that the stuff we've probably all done can end you at any point.
Truth be told though, it sounds like the person that should be charged is the person who's dead. Joe is the one that lost control of his car and hit the other car. This guy at best was participating in a street race and left the scene of an accident he apparently wasn't involved in.
Charging him for street racing is one thing but it sounds like they're trying to stick Joe's charges on the only person that left the event alive.
Please don't crucify me. If you see it differently please explain why.
"Under questioning by defense attorneys, both witnesses said they could not place Salvesen’s Subaru at the scene of the crash or identify Salvesen as the driver."
It'll be hard to get a "slam dunk" case with the witnesses not being able to pinpoint the other driver. The only evidence I see is helping to try and nail the survivor is the account of street racing and the photo of the plates. But since nobody actually saw the guy leave the scene of the accident then it'll be a hard case to prove. Part of me wants to see the guy get his ass handed to him but then again, we have all taken that same risk with street racing. I have mixed feelings but all in all, if the evidence can't prove the guy was there, then I think he'll go free (again based off evidence).
Well FYI Joe is my Brother.
Here is why you are wrong without going into details I cannot say until the trial is over.
1) Look at what the actual charges are (aggravated street racing, and leaving the scene of an accident that resulted in fatality). How is he being stuck with any charge of Joes??????
2) Street racing takes two
3) You don't know the details of the crash so just because the paint didn't trade doesn't mean you didn't have a hand in it. For example I could take my truck and drive you off the road without hitting you.....not my fault????
You are all entitled to your opinions, I would appreciate the choice of words used be looked at carefully before posting. I will take offense to any ignorant comments.
Its only the first day of trial. Many witnesses to testify and info to surface. The news is not spot on either FWIW
1. See my previous post. I thought they were charging him with manslaughter.
2. Agreed.
3. Agreed again however the witness accounts so far seem to state that Joe lost control of the car after going around a van which would lead someone with no other info to believe that he was the cause of the loss of control and subsequent crash into the other car. If there is competing testimony that says that the Subaru cut him off or something like than then yeah, I'm with you.
The bottom line is that none of us were there so you have to look at the witness testimony and go from there. Either way though, an indictment of someone's actions doesn't have to be an indictment of their character. I've done some worse stuff than this and got lucky that it ended differently than things ended here. Every one of us has done stupid shit. That doesn't make us all horrible. It just makes us human.
When a person decides to leave the scene and go home after a drag race he is involved in which the other driver crashes head on into another vehicle and explodes into a ball of flames , then lie to an officer about it immediately afterwards trying to cover himself , that makes him horrible human . In my mind it does . Maybe not yours .
The bottom line is that none of us were there so you have to look at the witness testimony and go from there. Either way though, an indictment of someone's actions doesn't have to be an indictment of their character. I've done some worse stuff than this and got lucky that it ended differently than things ended here. Every one of us has done stupid shit. That doesn't make us all horrible. It just makes us human.