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[Eagle]

Need motor/esc advice. What should I pick up for the HPI Blitz? Been looking at either the HPI Flux setup or the Castle Mamba Max 5700.

Would also like suggestions for what battery to pick up to work with the above combo.

What say you, TCG?

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[slow4.6]

I race short coarse. I'm having real good luck with a Novak motor and LRP esc. Just keep in mind when going brushless gearing is real critical with what your doing with it. Always check engine and esc temp.

 

[Eagle]

Funny you mention that... blew an ESC today. :wtc: Is a laser thermal gun ok for checking temps? What temps are acceptable? I assume if its too hot you should increase the gear ratio to reduce load on the components?

 

[Eagle]

Which Novak do you suggest?

 

[slow4.6]

Novak ballistic. Never run motor temp past 160s the magnants inside will start to demagnetize, I run mine around 140 and have a alarm on my controller when it hits 155. I use a temp sensor that works with my controller. Any temp reader will work and get you in the ballpark. Gearing all depends on what your doing.

 

[Eagle]

I'm not really looking to class race, or race at all for that matter... just want something to bash with and run offroad/onroad. Multi-purpose basher basically.

How is this as an option? Castle Creations Sidewinder 3 Waterproof ESC with Motor (NC1406-5700KV), Scale 1:10

Amazon.com: Castle Creations Sidewinder 3 Waterproof ESC with Motor (NC1406-5700KV), Scale 1:10: Toys & Games

 

[Formula_LS1]

Paging [MENTION=11078]No Angel[/MENTION] lol

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Seems like a good choice. I like the castle creations stuff because they've got a slick tuner for it and their warranty program has been great. I had a 5 year old mamba kit that went dead and they sent me a new updated kit for free with no questions asked.

 

[rz79]

I know it's blasphemy to put a traxxss system in a HPI but... Why not!? Don't the stock traxxss brushless systems kick ass for bashing ( which is what you do) and IIRC they are waterproof!
Prolly could get on the cheap on eBay, no?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Ask Emerson how awesome they are


Fuck traxxas junk

 

[slow4.6]

Castle is a good product. Just stay away from Novak esc. They are junk. But as long as you keep your temp down. Most products will do you fine

 

[rz79]

Ask Emerson how awesome they are


Fuck traxxas junk

For real... I hated them when I raced, but... Now it's hard to hate how user friendly that shit is.

 

[torquelover]

I went with an ESC from Stan @ Brushless Hobbies. Try to go hardcase 2s lipo, the higher the C rating the better. On these, I have run direct wire and also terminal cases, I don't really have a preference for one over the other. I also ran a green can Tacon, but they are hard to come by in ideal KVs nowadays. This was last year, but this approx what I paid:
3660 3000KV Tacon $30
Brushless Hobbies 120A ESC $65
Generic 2S lipo 30c $20

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

For real... I hated them when I raced, but... Now it's hard to hate how user friendly that shit is.

His brushless traxxas stuff is always giving him grief.

Fuck traxxas plastics. Complete junk.

Castle creations ftw.

 

[rz79]

Castle is pretty epic.

 

[Eagle]

Why is this castle so cheap then? Seems like it should cost more...

Another Q, is more Kv always better is a motor? Why do I see 2xxxKv motor / esc kits selling for $3xx?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Probably some knock off shit. Amazon is full of fake junk.

 

[torquelover]

Yes, Castle stuff is generally pretty decent. On the 2xxxKv motors you're likely looking at large can 5mm shaft motors for 1/8 scale cars.

 

[Eagle]

Gotcha @ 1/5th scale.

Amazon seller looks legit with a ton of good reviews. That setup is castles entry level stuff (now that I checked their site) and their price isn't too far off at $129. I can't see needing anything bigger than a 3s Lipo...

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Well good to know

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

For bashing, you would want to run a higher voltage, lower amperage setup. This is easier on the ESC, and more efficient as well.

For the castle stuff I'd say a Mamba Max Pro with a 1415 motor. This motor only turns 2400rpm/v but can take up to 5S lipo.

at 5S lipo it would be spinning about 45,000rpm but the torque generated would be insane.

It would move a 4WD short course truck like it was a feather.

Plus it also means the load on the batteries is less as well, because overall current draw is less. And if you really want to go stupid, insane fast all you gotta do is gear up.

I have a Mamba Max Pro and a Castle 1410 3800kv motor powering my OFNA Nexx8 1/8th buggy and while its not uber fast on 4S it certainly moves out well enough. The Nexx8 is a heavy beast though compared to a Short course truck.

Right to Left: Castle 1717 1580kv, Castle 1515 2200kv, and Castle 1410 3800kv.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8360790259_a15b196417_z.jpg

 

[Eagle]

Holy hell, the 1410 costs $162 by itself! Why is that thing so much better than the one I posted?

http://www.rcplanet.com/Castle_Creations_1_10_1415_Series_Brushless_Mtr_24_p/cse060-0030-00.htm

 

[Eagle]

Thanks for the pics and the explanations! :bigok:

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Holy hell, the 1410 costs $162 by itself! Why is that thing so much better than the one I posted?

Castle Creations 1/10 1415 Series Brushless Mtr 2400 kV SC T (CSE060-0030-00) | RC Planet

You can find them much cheaper than that.

There's a guy on Ebay I buy stuff from, very good prices. I bought the Castle 1717 1580kv from him for $160 shipped. And THAT is a badass motor. Same one they use in the Traxxas XO-1 pretty much, 100mph+.

Also, I had the MMP/3800kb combo in my OFNA Hyper 10TT truggy. This is a 10th scale Truggy version of the Hyper 10sc short course truck. And it MOVED out on 3S. Damn near wheelies everywhere. In the end JUST to keep the front wheels from exploding I had to put some 300,000wt diff fluid in the center because it was unloading that badly.

On 2S, it was meh, fast enough but really not anything note worthy. On 3S with the gearing I was running top speed was about 45mph, but it was 45mph of Saturn-5 rocket acceleration.

 

[Eagle]

Yeah, I want great acceleration and about 40ish mph. Actually want it controllable though... currently running a 2s Lipo.