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Old 12-18-2018, 04:05 PM   #1
 
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A gun attachment used in the mass shooting that killed 58 people at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas last year will be banned under a new federal regulation announced Tuesday by the Trump administration.

Owners of bump stocks ó a firearm accessory that allows non-automatic weapons to be fired at a rate that mimics that of automatic ones ó will have have 90 days to destroy or turn in the devices, according to the regulation put forth by the U.S. Department of Justice, reports The New York Times.

In addition, the change will block gun owners from being able to register the accessory after the new regulation takes effect with its publication in the Federal Register, likely on Friday, reports NPR.

Ten states previously banned the plastic device in the wake of the Oct. 1, 2017, attack in Las Vegas, reports NPR.

Itís unclear how many gun owners will be affected but the Department of Justice previously reported that up to 520,000 bump stocks had been purchased in the United States since 2010, reports USA Today.

President Trumpís request for the DOJ to ban the attachment overrides a earlier position taken by officials with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, who had concluded the attachments were not subject to federal regulation, reports CNN.
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it was mentioned in another thread. cant remember where. so, technically, no.

*in the trump thread.
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im sure they will all be "destroyed" properly
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But trumps still at fault for this massacre
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I bought 5 just after the Vegas shooting.
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I'm a pro gun guy, but don't really care about this. The ban won't make anyone any safer, but these things didn't have any purpose except to allow any moron to be able to empty a mag in <5 seconds
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I always felt like I could dump a mag fast enough anyway, but I dont like to see things get banned weather I would use them or not
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Banning these will probably make zero impact on any lives saved. First, it is extremely rare that these are used in a crime. Second, you can empty a mag almost as fast, but more accurate without one of these. Really don't think these offer any kind of added kill count to a shooting.
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these seems like they were pretty useless and designed for people to watch them in youtube videos
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Would never use one either, but agree that them just arbitrarily making something illegal and saying you have 90 days to turn them in is a problem. I hope it goes to the courts and they lose or have to grandfather in the ones that we bought prior....

Imagine if they said “were banning internal combustion engines, you have 90 days to turn them in and you won’t be compensated for them....”

Of course that’s a far way out there thought, but just saying that I don’t see how they can say they were legal for so long and then make you turn them in.
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Your two stage triggers are now banned because you can dump a magazine in <6 seconds. Those are pointless, right?

Your red dot sight is now banned because it allows you to acquire targets quickly. Pointless, right?

Your high powered scope is now banned because it allows you to kill someone from far away. Clearly pointless.

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Your two stage triggers are now banned because you can dump a magazine in <6 seconds. Those are pointless, right?

Your red dot sight is now banned because it allows you to acquire targets quickly. Pointless, right?

Your high powered scope is now banned because it allows you to kill someone from far away. Clearly pointless.

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Think you misunderstood my post. Banning them is pointless, as it will prevent nothing...

I dont care for them personally, but banning these useless things wont prevent mass shootings from happening, or any aspect of how deadly one can be.
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Not liking the NRA response of just “were disappointed that they didn’t grandfather them in” either....

Realistically they’re saying anything that increases rate of fire can be classified as a “machine gun” whenever the deem it so and you have 90 days to comply....

Like Carter said, trigger jobs? Illegal. Binary trigger? Illegal. Faster acquisition? Illegal. Etc....

I don’t like bump stocks or care for them, but the argument has to start somewhere about them banning stuff out of the blue without as much as a law being made.
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Your two stage triggers are now banned because you can dump a magazine in <6 seconds. Those are pointless, right?

Your red dot sight is now banned because it allows you to acquire targets quickly. Pointless, right?

Your high powered scope is now banned because it allows you to kill someone from far away. Clearly pointless.

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Think you misunderstood my post. Banning them is pointless, as it will prevent nothing...

I dont care for them personally, but banning these useless things wont prevent mass shootings from happening, or any aspect of how deadly one can be.
I swear to god, you ninja edited. No way I misinterpreted that that badly.
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Oh my God.

I'm afraid of getting 'likes' from the anti-gun crowd.

I think that 'machine guns' have been banned for a while, only grandfathered stuff available.

Under that premise, I think a Bump-Stock is something that very effectively replicates a machine gun. Why were they ever tolerated under the anti-machine gun ban?

They already banned machine guns a long time ago because it was decided we should not have fully automatic weapons in private hands.

Then my question is this - do we continue to ban anything that can continuous fire until empty with one pull of the trigger or do we not continue the ban?
I think a Bump-stock is a fully automatic bullet delivery device, too.

I am OK with it being legal, for what it's worth. I just don't think it is legal under the full auto ban.
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