which brand?

[rude_mach]

I'm going ms4 cam in a few weeks finishing on saving up,and was gonna buy the small things first oil pump,timing chain,and possibly pulley. Any certain brand or anything I should go with? Heads will be come into play around tax season so i'm not worried about that the cam only might not even hit the street.

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[Fast Motorsports]

If you have a full weight car and only a 3.73 gear we would suggest not going with such a large cam. Your gonna kill a ton of low end torque and its not going to be as fun to drive day to day. You could get similar HP results with much better torque and therefore better track times with a slightly smaller camshaft.

As far as parts go. We normally use the GMPP ported oil pump unless the customer requests a melling pump. Our cam packages include the HD LS2 timing chain. Oil pump seal you should switch to the orange seal from GM instead of the stock blue seal.

Let us know if we can help further

 

[rude_mach]

Well the car is weekend cruiser/drag car. So what would be a suitable cam then.

 

[Fast Motorsports]

Even being a weekend cruiser or a drag car its not setup well for a cam that makes huge peak numbers. Average numbers would be better suited for you. If you had a 4.10 gear and 2-300lbs taken out you would be better off.

MS4 cam specs: 239/242, .649"/.609", 111 LSA

Something a little better suited:

Mildly aggressive: 226/234 60x/60x 113
More aggressive: 230/233 60x/60x 112
Most aggressive: 234/238 60x/60x 112

Those are approx numbers to give you ball park ideas.

For conversation those cams wont make the same peak HP numbers but will have more TQ under the curve and drive a ton better. They will all still carry to 6400+ rpms yet have more low end to get the car moving better.

Let us know if we can help you with a complete package

 

[The Beast]

brandon your alive??? people are saying you fell off the earth. i still have not installed my afr heads and fast intake yet, I was hoping you would do it soon?

 

[Fast Motorsports]

Still consuming oxygen for sure. Just been keeping up with calls, emails and then labor.

Shoot me an email and we can get you scheduled

 

[The Beast]

Still consuming oxygen for sure. Just been keeping up with call, emails and then labor.

Shoot me an email and we can get you scheduled

no hijack thread. were is your shop brandon? and do you have a dyno?

 

[Fast Motorsports]

Shop is in algonquin. We do have dyno service still.

 

[The Beast]

Shop is in algonquin. We do have dyno service still.

I will be contacting you real soon.

 

[R6cowboy]

ported LS6 oil pump, GM LS2 timing chain. And there are so many better cams other then the ms4. I agree with Brandon on what he mentioned would be better suited. Are you planning on upgrading pushrods and springs when installing the cam?

 

[rude_mach]

Yes I was the whole shabang. I also pm Brandon about packages on one of the three cams.

 

[Fast Motorsports]

Did get our response? Just making sure.


We have seen many get caught up in dyno races and peak HP numbers but when we are given the chance to grind something suited for the customer they end up 100% more satisfied. We just did a local GTO that was going road course racing. They wanted something similar to the MS3 or the G5X3 type cam based on what they read on the net. We also found out that its more of a short course with very little straightaways. Well we went back to a 226/228 type cam to still keep the massive torque band to get the 4klb car out of the corners yet will still pull hard to 6300+. Car put down within 5hp of what they read on the net the larger cams would but at some points had 40ftlbs more torque than other larger cam cars. Needless to say that car is a blast to drive

 

[rude_mach]

Nice then I might wanna go custom or with the one I asked about. Ill pm for more info

 

[R6cowboy]

Custom is the best way to go. I ended up going with a TSP Torquer V3 cam with stg2.5 ported PRC heads on 346ci LS1. The torquer v3 is a nice cam (231/234 dur, .642/.598 lift, 112lsa) but I'll be going back to my original plan of getting a custom cam. I didn't go custom at the time because I wasn't exactly sure of my setup. You want to build a cam around your eingine, not build the engine around your cam, if you know what I mean. Its usually good to get heads at the same time or before the cam.