Cam vs Heads/Cam

[YoushallgoFo]

So i'm becoming intrested in these mods since I'm at full bolt ons, suspension, stall and gears. The big question is it worth it for the heads. The motors apart anyway, might as well right?

Goals are just to add a little more go, I drag race it but it's primarily a street car that I drive every day rain and shine. I put about 10k a year on it.

Are gains from heads really that noticable? Am I wasting time w just cam only? I'd just see what all your opinions are on it. Since it looks like 9/10 f-bodies on this site here have something like this anyway.

on stock trans and rear btw. not looking to change those until they break either.

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[OffshoreDrilling]

If you dont want to break the bank and dont really race the car, slapping a set of stock 243s on there would be worth while while its apart.

 

[PANDA]

LS6 cam, 243's

stock is the best

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

disagree on the cam, agree on the heads. Lots to gain over an ls6 cam, even without going crazy.

 

[FormulaLS1]

Go big or go home!

 

[CrunkMaro]

stay stock and be cool like me.

 

[C.Evans]

GMPP LS3 Hot Cam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAIjVpBQQlE

 

[YoushallgoFo]

well the cam is still to be decieded. I'm not sure which will work best with the stall and whatever other parts I decide to get. I'm just wondering if its really worth the extra money for the heads and will it be too much for what i'm going for as a daily driver if they change anything at all. and if 243s, to get them ported or not. seems to me like 243's add about 20 wheel and porting them is another 20 wheel. just what i read on ls1tech anyway..

 

[Yaj Yak]

my buddy has eagles old heads and cam from his t/a from before he went turbo and had the nitrous setup

my buddy was going to put them on his cts-v but sold the car- any interest in them?

 

[98blueSScamaro]

well the cam is still to be decieded. I'm not sure which will work best with the stall and whatever other parts I decide to get. I'm just wondering if its really worth the extra money for the heads and will it be too much for what i'm going for as a daily driver if they change anything at all. and if 243s, to get them ported or not. seems to me like 243's add about 20 wheel and porting them is another 20 wheel. just what i read on ls1tech anyway..

you read into things to much... Stock 243 heads and a little milling no porting net 400 plus all day long. even with a nice baby cam. if it was me i would spend the extra 400 on the heads.

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[JDHedman]

you read into things to much... Stock 243 heads and a little milling no porting net 400 plus all day long. even with a nice baby cam. if it was me i would spend the extra 400 on the heads.

+1 my old setup was some CNCed 243s with a small cam and it put down a little over 400 to the wheels and you could barley tell it was cammed. if you decide not to do heads your going to want to get springs/retainers and push rods anyway so spend a bit more and get a good amount of HP

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Definitely another +1 on the ported/polished 243s.

If you feel frisky, Mast Motorsports makes a rectangular port LS3/L92 style head that fits the LS1 block. http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/product-view.php?cat=Cylinder Heads - Assembled&id=360 Only problem is you will need a LS3/L76 intake manifold and a 90mm+ throttle body.

 

[YoushallgoFo]

So are we not porting them or are we? I'm thinking right now just to get the stock 243's and throw'em right on.

where did you buy the heads from?

 

[JDHedman]

if you have the cash just get some patriot 243 ported you can pic up a set for around $900 on tech used

 

[Boostie]

Ls6 intake, 243 heads and a semi-mild cam should get you around 420whp tuned

 

[98blueSScamaro]

unported 243's and the right cam. I have done 2 stock headed 243 setups with big cams. one a trex the other a vindicator. that trex car made 445rwhp with a nine and strange drive shaft, the vindicator made 428 rwhp on a mustand dyno with a ford nine rear as well. but you will not need that much cam at all to crack 400

 

[Larry@AMS]

I don't feel cam only packages are a waste at all and it really comes down to your budget for the build. I think with a budget minded build adding some stock 243's or milled 243's to the mix is a great upgrade with a cam pkg.

depending on cam choices and bolt-ons an auto car will make 380+ rwhp

 

[School Boy]

unported 243's and the right cam. I have done 2 stock headed 243 setups with big cams. one a trex the other a vindicator. that trex car made 445rwhp with a nine and strange drive shaft, the vindicator made 428 rwhp on a mustand dyno with a ford nine rear as well. but you will not need that much cam at all to crack 400

what intake manifold? and was that a 6 speed car?

 

[YoushallgoFo]

after some thought looks like ported heads is worth the $

Anyone have some input on DDing with that setup? How long did you push the stock trans, driving it in rain and snow, things like that. I really like how DD-able my car is right now, like I said i put about 10k a year on. does h/c cross that line between fun/summer/track car and DD?