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Old 05-24-2017, 09:26 AM   #1
 
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I'm looking to buy a boat to put on Tahoe. My plan is to live on it for the summer and learn as much about sailing and boats as I can.

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I was mostly looking at Crownlines, but I wanted to see if the boat experts here had any other recommendations.
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well this is fucking awesome.

im pumped to cruise craigslist out there.

does it have to be trailerable? does it have to have a trailer?

crownlines are legit but consider many other brands as well.

what boating experience do you have?

are you looking for a sail boat or a power boat?
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I have pretty much no boating experience haha. I have a couple friends out here with boats so I'm using them to shorten my learning curve a bit.

Prefer trailerable. It'd be too expensive to store it at the lake over winter. Once I put it in the lake, it won't leave until October/ November though.
Prefer power boat over sailboat but either is fine.
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well sailboats typically if you can live on it, won't be trailerable. so you're probably going to want to cut that from your search.

where are you going to keep it? what are slip costs like there? what are you going to tow it with?
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25' is going to be very cramped to live on full time. I wouldn't touch anything less than 30'.

Take a look at what winter storage costs are, docking costs, plan to spend $1000 minimum on maintenance every year if youre DIY, at least double if you're not, realize anything that isn't a sailboat that size gets sub 2mpg. There are a TON of hidden costs. All the stuff you are eating and drinking because boat, driving To/from the lake.

Not to dissuade you but most people's experience with boats is grandpas fishing boat and uncle dicks ski boat you took out twice a summer. Both sat on a trailer in their driveways.

Fuel, docking, and storage alone on my last boat for one season in chicago: $7700
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25' is going to be very cramped to live on full time. I wouldn't touch anything less than 30'.

Take a look at what winter storage costs are, docking costs, plan to spend $1000 minimum on maintenance every year if youre DIY, at least double if you're not, realize anything that isn't a sailboat that size gets sub 2mpg. There are a TON of hidden costs. All the stuff you are eating and drinking because boat, driving To/from the lake.

Not to dissuade you but most people's experience with boats is grandpas fishing boat and uncle dicks ski boat you took out twice a summer. Both sat on a trailer in their driveways.

Fuel, docking, and storage alone on my last boat for one season in chicago: $7700
However that my equate to conventional living expenses.
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25' is going to be very cramped to live on full time. I wouldn't touch anything less than 30'.

Take a look at what winter storage costs are, docking costs, plan to spend $1000 minimum on maintenance every year if youre DIY, at least double if you're not, realize anything that isn't a sailboat that size gets sub 2mpg. There are a TON of hidden costs. All the stuff you are eating and drinking because boat, driving To/from the lake.

Not to dissuade you but most people's experience with boats is grandpas fishing boat and uncle dicks ski boat you took out twice a summer. Both sat on a trailer in their driveways.

Fuel, docking, and storage alone on my last boat for one season in chicago: $7700
Yeah I did an estimate on the expenses, and I'd say it about costs roughly the same/ a little bit more to live on the boat than if I were to rent a house. Fuel would be expensive but I don't plan on sailing around every day. The only thing is the extra time driving to/from Reno when I do work. I work and travel a lot anyway so I'm not too worried about living spaces, I equate it to a small hotel room with a better view.

Overall it could be an amazing summer experience or a terrible one But you only live once and it's just for the summer anyway,
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well sailboats typically if you can live on it, won't be trailerable. so you're probably going to want to cut that from your search.

where are you going to keep it? what are slip costs like there? what are you going to tow it with?
Slips are about 2k for the season which isn't bad. (Way cheaper than renting a room) One of my friends that gave me the idea also works for the local pd and harbor master was actually giving me some intel on where to anchor it offshore and just use my kayak whenever I need to come to shore. So that was something I was considering as well. Everyone I know has a truck and a couple people already agreed to tow it to the lake for me if I do get one.
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you wouldn't want to be offshore cuz then you either won't have power, or will be running your generator always.
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you're going to need a really decent sized truck to tow anything you'd want to live in even just for the summer frankly just so you know as well.
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so in my brief hunt, closest things i found that would fit the bill for me for what you're looking for would be these.

https://reno.craigslist.org/boa/6142912188.html




https://visalia.craigslist.org/boa/6145380770.html


and just cuz i stumbled across this i have to post it because it's badass, and wouldn't work for your goals whatsoever

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/6142120965.html



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worth mentioning as well, you'll have to make sure whatever marina you wind up in, let's you live there fulltime. some don't.

make sure as well, you are getting power & water as some slips won't have that.

you'll also want to inquire about how your sewage tanks getting emptied- like if you have to do it, or if they come and pump, or what...
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a few quick articles i read said you can't liveaboard in the marinas... how they regulate that... is probably awfully "california"
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Going to follow along just to see where this thread goes... Wish I could afford a boat, kayak maybe, boat no.
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a few quick articles i read said you can't liveaboard in the marinas... how they regulate that... is probably awfully "california"
Basically from what I was told by a buddy of mine (the Harbormaster) he said that as long as I move my anchor every 72 hours, and I leave my navigation light on at night, then I'm within code.

I was also going to outfit the boat with solar panels to power the electronics. The panels that he uses aren't terribly big but they power the fridge and the lights/ microwave etc..

Those pontoon boats are pretty nice though and definitely have some potential. One already has a slip if I go that route.
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Everything you just said, way more complex and expensive than you can imagine.


Go look at some boats in your price range as a start
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powering a fridge, microwave, lights, and other small things will be a pretty extensive solar setup.
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powering a fridge, microwave, lights, and other small things will be a pretty extensive solar setup.
Yeah, I'm familiar with running solar. We have it set up at the house I'm at currently and in a couple friend's RVs. It's sunny 99% of the time here.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with running solar. We have it set up at the house I'm at currently and in a couple friend's RVs. It's sunny 99% of the time here.
how much do you think the panels & batteries and other stuff will run you out of curiosity?
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No more than a grand. ~300-325 for the panel, 150 for the charge controller, ~200-300 for a battery. I may not need to buy a new battery, and I obviously won't be able to run on solar for extended periods of time but it should give me about 1-2 days max probably worth of power just running the normal electronics, (fridge, microwave, lights, etc..) But as I said, it's sunny 99% of time so they'll have no problem charging as needed and I can always run the boat if for some reason I need extra juice.
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in my brief experience looking at solar stuff, i feel like that small of a setup won't power all of that? and only having one battery $250 won't give you much capacity?
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