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Old 06-22-2007, 03:29 AM   #1
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The time has come for new pads and rotors(or so I think.) My car has 20K miles on it and I still think she's got the same shit from when she rolled off the showroom floor. Last summer I had the front rotors resurfaced. Took out the vibration under hard braking but I didn't replace the pads.

Of course I'd like to upgrade to some slotted rotors and hawk pads but I don't wanna shell out the cash. What would a set of stock replacements cost? I called autzone and all they had were the Baer big brake kits. Any ideas guys?
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Stock Brembo replacement rotors for the front are about $60 to $65 each.

Stock pads are about $80.


In my opinion, you'd be better off sticking with the stock pads for street use. I have a set of the Hawk HPS pads and they are not as good as the stock pads. They have a weak initial bite, require more pedal force to stop and fade much quicker than the stockers did.
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The time has come for new pads and rotors(or so I think.) My car has 20K miles on it and I still think she's got the same shit from when she rolled off the showroom floor. Last summer I had the front rotors resurfaced. Took out the vibration under hard braking but I didn't replace the pads.

Of course I'd like to upgrade to some slotted rotors and hawk pads but I don't wanna shell out the cash. What would a set of stock replacements cost? I called autzone and all they had were the Baer big brake kits. Any ideas guys?
Go with the stock pads unless the car see's allot of track use. The Hawk pads will drive you crazy with the squealing noise until they are heated up. Stock pads IMO work best on the street.
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+1 subscribing here...keep the opinions coming

My stock pads are squealing now (indicator strip contacting the rotor), and looking at them they have chewed the hell out of my rotors. Has anyone else seen this? I'm thinking they are more aggressive than the Hawk HPS pads that I planned on replacing them with. I thought the Hawks were OK with the Lightning, does anyone NOT like them better than stock with the Cobra? Plus, they dust a lot, much more than the Hawks did on my L.

If anyone has seen their rotors chewed by the stock pads, did you successfully resurface them or just replace? I'd hate to have to do a bearing job on this already. Only 13K miles.

I was also looking at the EBC Red Stuff pads, but they're a little more expensive than the Hawks. Anyone running them? I'm talking street use here.

FYI, www.raceshopper.com has the best prices on Hawk pads.

03-04 Cobra Front HB111F.610 $83 Rear HB183F.585 $56
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I'm in the same boat as you guys...

I replaced my original rotors with slotted and cross drilled and they looked damn mean, but that is all really... I replaced the rear pads with ceramic ones from Murrays, and they have done a good job. The fronts are what came with the rotors and held up, but are going bye-bye.

Now I will be going with Brembo from www.tirerack.com, best price I think and good rotors.

I, who do see the track quite a bit, will probably still stay with the stock pads up front, or pick up the same ceramic ones to see how they do.
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Stock Brembo replacement rotors for the front are about $60 to $65 each.

Stock pads are about $80.


In my opinion, you'd be better off sticking with the stock pads for street use. I have a set of the Hawk HPS pads and they are not as good as the stock pads. They have a weak initial bite, require more pedal force to stop and fade much quicker than the stockers did.

Where can i score these?
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You can get the stock brembos from www.tirerack.com
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i couldnt get the brembo replacement rear rotors through tire rack. they had to be backordered so i just got the fronts.

anyone know of another place?

i bought hawk hps pads but have yet to put em on. i think i might just go with them instead of going through the hasstle to return them.
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I may take the Hawk pads off you if you want to go with something else. PM me. I need rears real bad.

Has anyone ever tried the ATE funky rotors on tirerack? I use ATE fluid, but never heard of their other products. For $25, I may just pick them up instead of trying to resurface the stockers. I think the pads really chewed the hell out of my rears.
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i couldnt get the brembo replacement rear rotors through tire rack. they had to be backordered so i just got the fronts.

anyone know of another place?

i bought hawk hps pads but have yet to put em on. i think i might just go with them instead of going through the hasstle to return them.
Make certain you follow the break in instructions to the letter. I installed those along with the $900 worth of Baer rotors front and back. Ended up tossing the Hawk HPS pads and went with the Cobra stock pads instead.
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i couldnt get the brembo replacement rear rotors through tire rack. they had to be backordered so i just got the fronts.
I bought my rear Brembo rotors from buybrakes.com a couple weeks ago, cheaper than Tire Rack and free freight on orders over $100
http://www.buybrakes.com/store/BR27192
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I replaced my stock pads with Hawk HPS pads. I also 'cut' all of the rotors. IMO, drilled and or slotted rotors are only for the look factor and have a easyer chance of getting a pulsation from less surface area. I saw a little improvement in brakeing with the Hawk pads. I also competely flushed the brake system with "z rated" DOT 3 brake fluid. It is pretty expensice $10/pint but is worth IMO. You can get the stuff from Bear Brakes.

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I bought my rear Brembo rotors from buybrakes.com a couple weeks ago, cheaper than Tire Rack and free freight on orders over $100
http://www.buybrakes.com/store/BR27192


Are those the front or rear?
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They have both...

http://www.buybrakes.com/brembo/am-apps-Ford.html


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Where can i score these?
I got mine from the Tire Rack (www.tirerack.com).

The last time I got rotors, I decided to try the cryo-treated Brembo's that Tire Rack has. So far, they've taken a beating at the track and are still perfect.

But unless you do a lot of on-track driving, they probably aren't worth the extra dough over the stock rotors.
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How long do the originals normally last? I have 37K on mine and it looks like I have about 1/8" from the backing plate to the disk on the rears, I think it's time.

Does anyone know where to get a good price on OEM pads?

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How long do the originals normally last? I have 37K on mine and it looks like I have about 1/8" from the backing plate to the disk on the rears, I think it's time.

Does anyone know where to get a good price on OEM pads?

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Guys,

TireRack for street performance has Brembo pads for $69 for the front and Hawk HPS pads for $63 for the rear. Anyone see any problems with this combo? Since my rotors look good I'll plan on changing them next time.

p.s. haven't found a Ford price.

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Tire rack doesn't have the rear Brembo rotors in stock.
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Guys,

TireRack for street performance has Brembo pads for $69 for the front and Hawk HPS pads for $63 for the rear. Anyone see any problems with this combo? Since my rotors look good I'll plan on changing them next time.

p.s. haven't found a Ford price.

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That looks like the route i'm going to go. Getting the rotors from Buybrakes.com and they same pad setup from tirerack.com
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Something else to think about. On my last brake job the guy called me to tell that I had Rear GT rotors NOT Cobra rotors and so I let him sell me an off brand just as good as apposed to HIS Ford OEM replacement cost, BUT, the OTHER rotor wasn't painted in the center and would look like shit as soon as it rusts, I ended up painting them myself, and yes you can tell. At least the FORD rotors are painted and look nicer longer.
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I highly recommend sticking with the stock pads vs. hawk hps. If you have to have an aftermarket pad, try Ferodo DS2500 compound.
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After adding up everything I'm getting shell shocked on the prices

Anyone use EBC Ultimax pads? I've had EBC GreenStuff's on my Focus and liked them alot.

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I highly recommend sticking with the stock pads vs. hawk hps. If you have to have an aftermarket pad, try Ferodo DS2500 compound.
Why not the Hawks and why the Ferodos?


EBC Greenstuff are too light for us, I've heard of people using the Redstuff though.
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