What's better, Hypertech or Diablo?

[saras03Cobra]

Which will give me the most HP? And which will disable traction control?

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[hj16]

Diablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypertech


I wouldnt use Hypertech on my car even if they paid me. Its beyond horrible.

 

[Wiked03]

Yeah the general concensus is that Hypertech is garbage.

Stick with Diablo or SCT. You can disable the traction control using either one, but it is permanent. If you disable it, it is gone until you re-enable it in the program.

 

[Wharf Rat]

Diablo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypertech


I wouldnt use Hypertech on my car even if they paid me. Its beyond horrible.

Couldn't have said it better myself unless I threw in few more >>>>>

 

[saras03Cobra]

1. Do you use the Diablo? If I add it to my stock 03 Cobra, what gains are possible? The Diablo website says about 20-30 HP, but on HorsepowerTV, they dyno'd the Hypertech with a 40HP gain on a bone stock 03 Cobra.

2. Do you know what reliablity issues I would run into with my car?

3. Does Diablo have a 100% money back guarantee?

 

[Wiked03]

1. I use SCT (Superchips), which is very similar to the Diablo. I can't really speak to the gains, because I changed my pulley at the same time, but 20-30 HP with the new tune is not unreasonable. Do you have any mods yet? It would probably be better to start with a good CAI and exhaust, then move on to the tune and the pulley. :burnout: :headbang:

IMO, Horsepower TV is for entertainment value only. And by entertainment, I mean comedy. Hypertech sponsored that show so of course they will praise it highly.

2. I have not run into any reliability issues with my tune, but don't know about others. You will definitely be driving it harder and that can lead to various problems. As long as the tune is created by a credible tuner and the A/F ratio is in the safe range, all should be well.

3. Not sure. I don't think SCT does, but the tuner you use will likely work with you to get the tune right.

 

[gnxs]

1. Do you use the Diablo? If I add it to my stock 03 Cobra, what gains are possible? The Diablo website says about 20-30 HP, but on HorsepowerTV, they dyno'd the Hypertech with a 40HP gain on a bone stock 03 Cobra.

2. Do you know what reliablity issues I would run into with my car?

3. Does Diablo have a 100% money back guarantee?

1) Both the Predator and SCT are good tuners. You could probably get 15-25 hp with the tune, but you might as well add the pulley and get 50+. You could certainly get at least 25+ with the tuner and a custom tune, even without a pulley.

2) No reliability issues I'm aware of. My custom tune makes my car actually drive better and smoother.

3) I don't know about a guarantee, but I don't suspect you'll want one. The traction control disable, diagnostics and data logging alone are almost worth the price.

I'm sure you could get members here with both types to give you a demo/ride to see the difference to stock and benefits & capabilities of each unit. If you'd like a Predator introduction, let me know. If you're in the SW Suburbs, we could meet up some time.

I know Carl (Wicked03) and Flatliner use the SCT. If I remember right, Flatliner has the SCT Pro Racer package, which is really slick. :headbang:

 

[hj16]

1. Do you use the Diablo? If I add it to my stock 03 Cobra, what gains are possible? The Diablo website says about 20-30 HP, but on HorsepowerTV, they dyno'd the Hypertech with a 40HP gain on a bone stock 03 Cobra.

Yes, I use Diablo Revolution Software. Adding it to a "BONE STOCK" 03 would be good for 25-35rwhp and about 20-30rwtq. Dont ever bring up that Horsepower TV episode in a discussion about tuning software. It was nothing more than a 30minute long paid advertisement by Hypertech. ANY tuner can give you big gains, toss in a shitload of timing, and lean the piss outta it. Is that safe? No..... With either Diablo or SCT you will get a safe, reliable tune, that makes good power. Also, where Hypertech charges for re-burns/flashes, Diablo and SCT mail order tuners offer FREE re-burns.... so when you add a pulley, exhaust, Kenne Bell, whatever, they re-tune your chip for free. Diablo and SCT also have unbeatable customer service over the phone, and on almost every Mustang forum out there. Hypertech isnt on any websites, and are very difficult to get a hold of.

Get Diablo or SCT....you wont regret it for a second :headbang:

2. Do you know what reliablity issues I would run into with my car?

Once you get the chip in, take it to a dyno to have the A/F measured under WOT. Once you've done this, and its safe, feel free to beat the crap outta her, and never worry about reliability. I have over 12,000 miles on my CPEI combo and havent had a single problem :hail:

3. Does Diablo have a 100% money back guarantee?

I dont think so.....but most tuners will work with you until you're happy....which, if you choose the right tuner, you will be VERY happy :biggthump

 

[saras03Cobra]

Please excuse the ignorance of my questions, I am kinda new to this, and want to do what's best for my beloved car.

Is what you guys are talking about is a Diablo chip or is it the Diablo computer programmer? What are the pro's vs con's for either the chip or the programmer?

 

[GET READY]

I have the preadtor with a custom tune from RWTD JAMES. It works great. and right now if you by from him. You can get several free custom tunes. The performance tune with just a K&n filter will give you at least 20 to 25 hp with no problem maybe even more. Then you can always go from there with other mods. and it is not that difficult to use. The sct also seems to work fine. Svt on our site sells the preadator. Good to work with. Iam not sure which one sutton uses. But they are also good people to work with. Also the have a dyno when needed. Your choice.

 

[gnxs]

Predator Flash Tuner

Get Ready is right on the money. I also have custom tune from RWTD and he's waiting for some more info from me to fine tune it a little more, which is free after purchasing a tune from him. If you look at the #'s in our sigs, we are very close. I bet we probably have almost identical mods and almost identical tunes. I also got a nice improvement in driveability and throttle response from his tune and a safe A/F:

Dyno Sheet on RWTD Tune

I highly recommend RWTD.

Also, we're talking about the flash programmer, not the chip.

 

[Doug02GT]

Though only a lowly GT and not a Cobra, I love my Diablo chip! I could feel it instantly. It is well worth the money in my opinion.

 

[Cobra Dude]

I like the Predator. It has work well for me. I have not have a chance to try any of the others. Follow Hank's advice if you are not going to use the Predator.

 

[Nichepi]

Beyond not just pushing the diablo stuff I've used them for several years now. Their programming is some of the most up to date technology for our vehicles, while at the same time their customer service and the people designing the products are some of the best. I think I've tried most the current units out on the market at some time or another and have found the diablo stuff to be some of the best.
Pauls HP used SCT at one time and actually for a long time and moved to diablo several years ago. Its the best thing next to getting a fast or tec3.

 

[heartbreaker68]

I am looking in to a diablo tuner and i was wondering if i instaled it and had any problems with the vehicle can the tuner be taken out so that the warranty will still be honered??

 

[Nichepi]

Yes, when you first start tuning your vehicle the predator stores your stock PCM ECC program in its memory so if something messes up you can restore it to default and run to your dealer.

 

[Flatliner]

I believe all the tuners have that capability. But be forewarned, that any flash of the computer, will void your warranty if it is the cause of the failure.

None of us here at chicagosvt.com have flashed our cars.




Choose your flasher based on customer support, find out about reflashes, and additional tuning prices... that is where you will make your decision.

Keep in mind that we have two site sponsors that are very competitve in prices and work with both dynoing, tuning, and flashing. Give them a call and talk to them and make your choice. I am sure they will give you the warm and fuzzy. :biggthump

 

[heartbreaker68]

thanks guys.

 

[Brutal04]

Help, I'm Lost

OK guys..make room for the idiot... You guys lost me. I'm looking to buy a Predator tuner/programmer & UPR 2.8" pulley (Part Number: # 9582-KIT) & a Cold Air Kit for my '04.

I read on the UPR site: "Predator accepts custom tunes, for all and any modifications or combinations.

These tunes can come through a simple e-mail from DiabloSport direct or through any one of our nation wide network of ChipMaster Revolution dealers."

So before I install the pulley, cold air & plug the Predator in for the first time. I need to call DiabloSport & tell them I need a program sent to me with those 2 mods calibrated?

 

[Wiked03]

Most places that sell the predator will also offer a tune with it. Tell them your mods, and they will fix you up. Always make sure you get it checked out on the dyno though!

 

[Wharf Rat]

OK guys..make room for the idiot... You guys lost me. I'm looking to buy a Predator tuner/programmer & UPR 2.8" pulley (Part Number: # 9582-KIT) & a Cold Air Kit for my '04.

I read on the UPR site: "Predator accepts custom tunes, for all and any modifications or combinations.

These tunes can come through a simple e-mail from DiabloSport direct or through any one of our nation wide network of ChipMaster Revolution dealers."

So before I install the pulley, cold air & plug the Predator in for the first time. I need to call DiabloSport & tell them I need a program sent to me with those 2 mods calibrated?

The Predator comes with a couple canned tunes- Performance 91 octane, Performance 93 octane (both for stock boost), and a pulley tune. You can load any one of these tunes to your car and make minor fuel and timing adjustments.

OR there are several vendors that can email you a custom tune that you can load with your Predator (which is what everyone is suggesting).

Also look at Billetflow for your pulley and tensioner before you buy the UPR.

 

[gnxs]

The Predator comes with a couple canned tunes- Performance 91 octane, Performance 93 octane (both for stock boost), and a pulley tune. You can load any one of these tunes to your car and make minor fuel and timing adjustments.

OR there are several vendors that can email you a custom tune that you can load with your Predator (which is what everyone is suggesting).

Also look at Billetflow for your pulley and tensioner before you buy the UPR.

I agree with Wharf on looking at Billetflow for the pullies and if you go with the Predator, I suggest James at www.runninwiththedevil.com for the Predator purchase (which will entitle you to custom tunes from him).

 

[Brutal04]

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[Dana]

<Pauls HP used SCT at one time and actually for a long time and moved to diablo several years ago. Its the best thing next to getting a fast or tec3.>

Have you looked at the SCT Pro Racers package?
I don't think Diablo has anything to compare to it at the moment.

The learning curve is kind of steep, but the capabilities are better than anything out right now.

Dan

 

[ChicagoMike]

FYI, I was at PHP (Paul's High Performance) within the past year, and he runs the SCT tuning software.

Beyond not just pushing the diablo stuff I've used them for several years now. Their programming is some of the most up to date technology for our vehicles, while at the same time their customer service and the people designing the products are some of the best. I think I've tried most the current units out on the market at some time or another and have found the diablo stuff to be some of the best.
Pauls HP used SCT at one time and actually for a long time and moved to diablo several years ago. Its the best thing next to getting a fast or tec3.