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Old 02-27-2011, 02:39 PM   #1
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Hey guys...

I am looking at putting a 4.6 DOHC in my '95 GTS.

Parts I know I need:
engine:
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computer
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Trans (??? WTF do I need to do here) T45, 3650, TKO, convert my T5z to work???

Parts I have:
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What else do I need?
any advise?

I am thinking of a high compression, agressive cam, natural aspirated setup and keep my suspension setup for autocross/road race.

I know I want it to remain a manual trans car... I currently have a T5z in my car from a '95 Cobra, does anyone know of a bellhousing that will adapt the T5z to the 4.6? will it handle the power/torque or should I even bother? should I just bite the bullet and aquire a T56?
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you'll need a trans harness from the donor car too.
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Teach me.

Why would you do something like this when for less you could throw in a 427 cubic inch stroked 351?
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Because the Teksid block is aluminum.... I picked up the bare block and hoisted it over my head by myself, try that with an iron 351 block.
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BTW... when i do this I'll pull out my 5.0 and T5z setup and list the stuff for sale. so if anyone is interested, let me know... the motor and trans are built well and are not broke. lots of good stuff here like heads and cam and cobra intake.
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and another question... would a T45 be enough to handle the added torque or should I go with a 3650???
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i have a complete 98 cobra convertible running.salvage.has all the parts you need.would make a good donor parts car for you.i was going to transplant everything in my notchback but i might go a different way.i am asking 3,000 for the complete car.posted picture while back
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what if you went with a T5? do you need a 6 speed for road racing? (not sure just asking) cause a 5 speed woul weigh less and are a little cheaper to build/repair

just a thought, look at ron fransis wiring for info about their wiring harness for modular swaped cars, eliminates a bunch of stuff you dont really need. thats what i got on my pig
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the 3650 IMO is worse than the t45.

If anything, buy a used tko 500 or 600. Direct bolt in place of t45/3650
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what if you went with a T5? do you need a 6 speed for road racing? (not sure just asking) cause a 5 speed woul weigh less and are a little cheaper to build/repair

just a thought, look at ron fransis wiring for info about their wiring harness for modular swaped cars, eliminates a bunch of stuff you dont really need. thats what i got on my pig

If it would be cost effective to run my current T5 I would as it has so far been pretty stout and I like the way it shifts and such, just don't know where to get a bell housing to make it work. I just don't want to run it if it can't handle the torque of the new motor, cause right now it is a fairly fresh rebuilt unit and could fetch me a few bucks, worth almost nothing broken.

I am on a budget, but don't want to be stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.
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the 3650 IMO is worse than the t45.

If anything, buy a used tko 500 or 600. Direct bolt in place of t45/3650
would the T45 work??? if so, I can transplant my T5 shifter (that I really love) and save a couple hundred bucks.
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I currently have a lead on a K member from a 99-04 car with PS rack and pump.... hopefully that works out well.
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oh... and what about air/fuel induction??? would I be better off using fuel injection from a 99-01 Cobra or would I be better to just carb it and convert my dash cluster for carb?
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carbing the engine may be easier, wont get the best mpg and i doubt it will pass emissions....
also before you buy that k member you may want to consider buying a tubular setup especially if you are using the car for racing..
and many places make bellhousing for everything, i have a bellhousing for a th400 on a 4.6! check out lakewood
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yes, t45 will work. Any trans that came on a 4.6 in a mustang will work. T45 came in the 96 to early 01 mustangs.
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carbing the engine may be easier, wont get the best mpg and i doubt it will pass emissions....
everything below 95 dont have to worry about emissions
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i thought it was 93?
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You dont live to far from me. I am in plainfield right off rte30 and 111th st. If you need help or tips let me know.. I am swapping in a 4v into my 88gt. I will be running a stock k-member. with a family and mortgage I can't spend my money on my cars like I used to.. You can run a factory 96-04 k-member off any 2v or 4v stang. and you can still retain all your suspension pieces... you will need a new brake boost, you will need to change over to the 96 and newer hydroboost setup to retain power brakes and steering. I will do manual as my car is more of a drag car...As for eletronocs there is a company that sells a stand alone wiring for the motor, there are so many different ways to do this.. I myself am using a 93 mark 8 motor which I will turbo, already got the motor and I have a built turbo 400 as well.... Eddie
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96 and newer cars still need to go for emission test, any car 0b2. pre 96 dont have to!
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Living in Oswego, and being the the car is in fact a '95 I don;t have to worry about emmisions...

I am using the stock 99-04 K member for the rigidity since it is not a drag car... plus I do not like coil overs on Mustang due to the fact that coil overs put all of the weight of the front on the strut tower braces as opposed to the stock locations of the springs.
also, I have a lot of cash in my front suspension and do not want to have to change it up.

what all is involved in carbing a '95??? how hard is it to make my stock guages work?
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My life sucks......

just as I am in the middle of my parts collecting phase, I now have home repairs to make.... I think I am going to have to sell my engine build parts to pay for it.

anyway, project aborted, or al least on hold.

Good thing my built 5.0 is still running great.
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Sorry to hear about that. You can continue to run the 5.0L until the 2 valve project is up and running again / complete.
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Sorry to hear about that. You can continue to run the 5.0L until the 2 valve project is up and running again / complete.

yes and no....

Yes, the 5.0 is running great and i can continue to use it... No, the 4 valve project is probably not going to happen. I was looking into it a little more and I am finding that I can go faster cheaper with a power adder on the 5.0 like a blower. so once I finish with the home repairs that need to happen, I will be saving for a blower.

so all of my mod motor stuff will be up for sale once I can get some pictures taken.
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