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Old 09-07-2010, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default Odd hard-to-start problem on 2002 GT

Occasionally, I will have a hard-to-start problem on my 2002 Mustang GT.
The issue will only occur when the engine is warm, but not every time.

The issue usually occurs if the engine is up to full operating temp, then shut down for a short while, then when you try to start it up again, it just cranks and won't start on the first try. Always starts on the second try though. Car starts just fine when cold.

Here's a real world example:
Engine is at operating temp, pull into the dry cleaners parking lot and shut off the car. Go into the cleaners for about 8 minutes. Come back out and try to start the car, but it just cranks. Turn key to "off" and try again, then it starts right up.

What could it be?
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:50 PM   #2
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My friends stang did something like that for a short time before the fuel pump died completely. I also think the car benefited from a new fuel filter too.
If it's cranking then I am assuming without hearing it myself, that it is getting power from the battery and not enough fuel to turn over.
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My friends stang did something like that for a short time before the fuel pump died completely. I also think the car benefited from a new fuel filter too.
If it's cranking then I am assuming without hearing it myself, that it is getting power from the battery and not enough fuel to turn over.
LOL if there is enough power to turn the starter, the fuel pump will have plenty of juice.
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Is the car in question supercharged?
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Car is not supercharged and 100% stock. Battery is good and starter spins at a good speed.

I was also thinking along the lines of a possible fuel delivery issue.
It does start fine when cold and if I only wait 2 minutes when warm it starts fine. It also starts fine on the second try when it fails to do so on the first.
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our expedition did the same thing, it was the fuel pump....
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Mine is supercharged and does the same thing. It doesn't like hot starts. I do have a pprv delete.
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Same thing happened to my 03 GT. I upgraded the fuel pump to a Walbro 255 and never had a problem again.
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pump or regulator
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If it's the fuel pump, why does it run fine after it starts?
Is this just a sign of an impending failure? The car only has about 25K miles on it.
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My svt focus pump doesnt even have 2,000 mi on it. Car runs fine under normal driving and wot.
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fuel pump....
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im going to say the IAC valve... its probably dirty and not allowing enough air during hot starts.. you can test this out by trying to give it 1/4 throttle while its cranking.. if it fires, the iac probably needs to be cleaned.
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Good idea about the IAC valve. I'll take a look at it first since it's an easier thing to deal with. If that's not it, I guess I'll have to tackle the fuel pump.

Thanks for the info guys.
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im going to say the IAC valve... its probably dirty and not allowing enough air during hot starts.. you can test this out by trying to give it 1/4 throttle while its cranking.. if it fires, the iac probably needs to be cleaned.
Mine does start up when I give it some gas on a hot start! Thanks Bob! What would you recommend to clean it?
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Mine does start up when I give it some gas on a hot start! Thanks Bob! What would you recommend to clean it?
if you look back when you asked about yours originally, i said to check the iac valve...
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if you look back when you asked about yours originally, i said to check the iac valve...
Where? I don't remember ever asking about this before.
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sorry, wrong guy..

yes, clean the iac!
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Mine does start up when I give it some gas on a hot start! Thanks Bob! What would you recommend to clean it?
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If it's cranking then I am assuming without hearing it myself, that it is getting power from the battery and not enough fuel to turn over.
cranking = turning over. Just sayin.
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I had a problem with my start up on my gt too. Every time the car warmed up it would struggle to turn on. I was shocked to find out it was my alternator! Now it starts right up. You should test the alternator out, youll never know its worth a try. It worked for me
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My car does the same thing and its been doing it for probably 4+ years
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My car does the same thing and its been doing it for probably 4+ years
my old 00 gt did it too...lol. i think it was missing a couple teeth on the flywheel too because it'd crank then skip and sound like ass....it could be embarassing. with a cold start it was never a problem
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Just wanted to FINALLY follow up with this.

I didn't seem to have any problems in colder weather, so I didn't get around to cleaning the IAC until recently. Now that the weather is warm again, the car began to have the hard-to-start-while-warm issue.

It was indeed the IAC valve.

I pulled the IAC and gave it a thorough cleaning. Problem is completely gone so far and the car has been starting fine for three weeks now.
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Thanks for the follow up. Congrats on finding the problem.
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