ceramic coatings?

[JDHedman]

anyone know of a local place that will blast and ceramic Coat some used headers and about what it would run me?

thanks
J

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[EmersonHart13]

http://www.lo-ko.com/

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans]LO-KO™ Perfomance Coatings, Inc.[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans]5340 West 111th Street
Oak Lawn, IL 60453

Phone: 708-424-7863
Fax: 708-424-9378[/FONT]

 

[Lead Pipe]

X2 on LoKo, they did a set of LT1 headers I had and they turned out great. My buddies shop uses them on all their header installs.

 

[jason05gt]

Pratt (Pressure Ratio) has a guy that did good work on his turbo piping. Shoot him a PM.

 

[JDHedman]

http://www.lo-ko.com/

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans]LO-KO™ Perfomance Coatings, Inc.[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans]5340 West 111th Street
Oak Lawn, IL 60453

Phone: 708-424-7863
Fax: 708-424-9378[/FONT]

X2 on LoKo, thye did a set of LT1 headers I had and they turned out great. My buddies shop uses them on all their header installs.

thanks
I sent them an email last night. They want $300 to coat them.. I am debating..

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Loko does good work. They did a few bike frames for me (which aren't easy) and they got them to me quicker then they quoted and cheaper too. I'll use them again for anything else i need PC'd

 

[willizm]

thanks
I sent them an email last night. They want $300 to coat them.. I am debating..

I just called them. Unfortunately the lady that answered the phone wasn't that helpful, but was able to say that the v8 turbo headers I have would be about $300 and they do inside and out. Turnaround is about 1 week. I may bring my stuff there since they are kinda local. Now trying to think if i should get my downpipe coated as well or just leave it. Too many theories on backpressure and it's hard to find anything concrete.

 

[Intel]

Maybe other people have different experiences but I would not get the inside of your turbo headers done.

If it flakes off you will have dead turbos.

I am personally looking at getting the outside of my new turbo manifolds done and the downpipes done. If I had the time I would get the exhaust side of my turbo's done but they are stuck on the car in some warehouse.

T-minus 30 days till she is sprung free.

 

[willizm]

Maybe other people have different experiences but I would not get the inside of your turbo headers done.

If it flakes off you will have dead turbos.

I am personally looking at getting the outside of my new turbo manifolds done and the downpipes done. If I had the time I would get the exhaust side of my turbo's done but they are stuck on the car in some warehouse.

T-minus 30 days till she is sprung free.

I just spoke to one of the guys at a new lenox coating place called Winning Color. link ->http://winningcolorspowdercoating.com/

They have a 1400degree coating for turbo setups(they call it TurboX or something). They also recommend doing the downpipe as well. Plus the finish is a satin black which is exactly what I'd want. I asked him about the whole inside of the header coating and it possibly flaking. He said if I'm bringing in headers that were never ran then I would have to let him know before he applies the coating. I guess he puts them in an oven to burn off any oil and debris then is able to apply the ceramic coating. He said that he hasn't had any issues with this coating flaking as long as he knows up front that they need to bake if new. Can't speak for used pipes flaking with the inside coating though.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

1400 degrees? Is that enough? People see those exhaust temps on stock block subarus

 

[JDHedman]

Im going back and forth.. I have a sandblaster and could blast the L.T's myself and just use some vht header paint.. or get them coated and have it last much longer and keep the bay cooler.. but who knows how long it will be before i decide to step up with the big boys and go TURBO ..

 

[Pressure Ratio]

I just called them. Unfortunately the lady that answered the phone wasn't that helpful, but was able to say that the v8 turbo headers I have would be about $300 and they do inside and out. Turnaround is about 1 week. I may bring my stuff there since they are kinda local. Now trying to think if i should get my downpipe coated as well or just leave it. Too many theories on backpressure and it's hard to find anything concrete.

I used LoKo for years. They were always great to deal with. They did great work and were fast. A couple years back they had horrible service and turn around. I stopped using them. The person I was using closed up shop last fall. Hopefully LoKo is back to their old ways of doing good business.

1400 degrees is not enough protection at all. The stuff you want is flat colors. The more shine the less protection. Check out Swain coatings. Arguably the best in the business. They have a lot of good info on ceramic coatings. They have a good read on the coating of turbo headers too. Do a search on here as this same discussion came up not that long ago.

Also, ceramic coat every thing you can afford to do. Heat management into the turbo and engine bay are critical in a turbo car.

 

[willizm]

1400 degrees? Is that enough? People see those exhaust temps on stock block subarus

actually it was 1500 degrees, but it should be good enough for what I'm doing. I don't see those pipes getting hotter than that before switching out to a t6 setup. Then that is a whole other ball game. imo. Even talking with Josh@KYTP he said that 1500 degree should be plenty good for this kit and my now and later goals.

 

[Pressure Ratio]

http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969

 

[willizm]

http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969

Who applies it around chicago land and what type of price range are we looking at? I don't mind seeing some more options if you got something to share.

 

[Pressure Ratio]

I don't think anyone but Swain applies their product. Just wanted to show you what "the best" out there is. Did you read about the temps, internal turbo header coating and such? That was what I wanted you to read more than any thing.

I think they are around $300 for a full length header. A short style turbo header should cost some what less.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I just called them. Unfortunately the lady that answered the phone wasn't that helpful, but was able to say that the v8 turbo headers I have would be about $300 and they do inside and out. Turnaround is about 1 week. I may bring my stuff there since they are kinda local. Now trying to think if i should get my downpipe coated as well or just leave it. Too many theories on backpressure and it's hard to find anything concrete.

im curious about this as well.

Maybe other people have different experiences but I would not get the inside of your turbo headers done.

If it flakes off you will have dead turbos.

I am personally looking at getting the outside of my new turbo manifolds done and the downpipes done. If I had the time I would get the exhaust side of my turbo's done but they are stuck on the car in some warehouse.

T-minus 30 days till she is sprung free.

i like this.

I just spoke to one of the guys at a new lenox coating place called Winning Color. link ->http://winningcolorspowdercoating.com/

They have a 1400degree coating for turbo setups(they call it TurboX or something). They also recommend doing the downpipe as well. Plus the finish is a satin black which is exactly what I'd want. I asked him about the whole inside of the header coating and it possibly flaking. He said if I'm bringing in headers that were never ran then I would have to let him know before he applies the coating. I guess he puts them in an oven to burn off any oil and debris then is able to apply the ceramic coating. He said that he hasn't had any issues with this coating flaking as long as he knows up front that they need to bake if new. Can't speak for used pipes flaking with the inside coating though.

so used what should i do?

I used LoKo for years. They were always great to deal with. They did great work and were fast. A couple years back they had horrible service and turn around. I stopped using them. The person I was using closed up shop last fall. Hopefully LoKo is back to their old ways of doing good business.

1400 degrees is not enough protection at all. The stuff you want is flat colors. The more shine the less protection. Check out Swain coatings. Arguably the best in the business. They have a lot of good info on ceramic coatings. They have a good read on the coating of turbo headers too. Do a search on here as this same discussion came up not that long ago.

Also, ceramic coat every thing you can afford to do. Heat management into the turbo and engine bay are critical in a turbo car.

what if the pipes are stainless?


can stainless turbo hotside pipes be coated?

 

[willizm]

^as for what to do with used pipes and coating them, my best guess would be to call some coaters like mentioned above and see what they do for used pipes.

 

[Frank Dukes]

cleaning/prep is an important part of the process irregardless of new or used. any metal can be PC'd. Isn't a coater a forum sponsor on here?

 

[JDHedman]

Hardway Customs

 

[Pressure Ratio]

Yes, Stainless steel can be coated.

 

[SRT41320]

a) isnt there a vender on here that can do a type of heat coating?
b) i dont know who did my manifold but its flawless - contact bob @ RC Autoworks