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Old 08-31-2010, 12:59 PM   #1
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Default Prosecutors want to know if car in fatal crash was 'souped up'



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Does getting behind the wheel of a souped-up car indicate its driver may be reckless?

That's a question a McHenry County judge or jury eventually may have to answer as prosecutors seek approval for an auto expert to check whether a vehicle involved in a fatal crash earlier this year had received aftermarket upgrades.

The car in question is a 2001 Pontiac Trans Am crashed the night of April 10 in Crystal Lake by Kyle J. Sievert, killing passenger Vanessa M. Tobey, 24, of Schaumburg.

Sievert, 24, of the 400 block of Happfield Drive in Arlington Heights, faces charges of reckless homicide and aggravated reckless driving as a result.

According to court documents, a Crystal Lake police officer believes modifications had been made to the vehicle before the crash. Now prosecutors are asking for court permission to have an automotive technology instructor from McHenry County College examine the car to possibly confirm those findings.

"(The examination) would assist the trier of fact in determining the ultimate question of the defendant's guilt or innocence, specifically as to whether the defendant's conduct was willful or wanton," Assistant McHenry County State's Attorney Ryan Blackney said in a court filing.

Sievert attorney Mark Gummerson said he would oppose the examination, but added that even if it were allowed, the findings should be immaterial.

"The question becomes that (if he did modify the car), does that make it reckless?" Gummerson said. "There was nothing illegal on the car. We don't believe it's relevant to the charge."

Authorities say Sievert was squealing his car's tires, revving its engine and accelerating rapidly when he lost control turning from Waterford Cut onto Huntley Road and collided with an SUV. Tobey was pronounced dead a short time later while two other passengers were injured, police said.

Sievert, who is free on $7,500 bond, is scheduled to return to court Sept. 29 for a hearing on the prosecution request.
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so if you put a muffler on your car and get in an accident they will get you for reckless driving too

Fucking stroke of jokes these damn nerd lawyers are......
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sad story irregardless... but yeah what do mods have to do with it... whether the car had 300 hp or 400 seems irrelevant
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Exactly. What if he had a stock z06? Doesn't matter.
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Wow is that bullshit! In no way should that determine if there should be any stiffer punishment. Say it had the power of a stock Z06, would a Z06 driver get in more trouble too? What mods have been done to a car should have nothing to do with it.
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Exactly. What if he had a stock z06? Doesn't matter.
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Odd we thought the same. Hopefully this doesn't mean cops are gonna crack down on modded cars because they're "reckless"
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every crotch rocket is reckless.....they are way too fast for any road, but they are not illegal
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I don't have a problem trying the guy with 'reckless' if he was doing some crazy speed, but not for his engine mods.
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I could'nt agree more. Irrelevant information.

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You can drive reckless in anything, I think it has little to do with what's being driven and everything to do with who's driving it.
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so true.

ever heard a vibe chirp the tires with four dudes in it?
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If only they went through this much trouble to get rid of illegal aliens, murders, rapist, and pedo's
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so true.

ever heard a vibe chirp the tires with four dudes in it?
Nope but I've almost been taken out by a few prius', camry's and SUVs.


I hope I get pulled over in mchenry co just so I can hear a cop ask if I have an illegal mod
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Thats fucked up.. its not like he sucked the victim into his man eating turbo

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i agree, you can be reckless in anything - modded or not!!

i got an idea...arrest the parents who give their kids (ages 16 to 24) a fast car (ie Z06, Mustang GT500, etc.) since they dont teach their kids common sense...the parents should get the fines/jail time
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I agree with everyone else. Why does it matter if it was moddified or not. You can be reckless in anything.

I do agree with srt. But don't put me in that age range lol I'm 24. But I'll agree 16-21 lol. Some kids just can't respect or doesn't know the power their bike/car makes and the end up loosing control or having an accident and hurting themselves or others.
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Thats fucked up.. its not like he sucked the victim into his man eating turbo

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I agree with everyone else. Why does it matter if it was moddified or not. You can be reckless in anything.

I do agree with srt. But don't put me in that age range lol I'm 24. But I'll agree 16-21 lol. Some kids just can't respect or doesn't know the power their bike/car makes and the end up loosing control or having an accident and hurting themselves or others.
i meant 16-24 "if" your parents bought your car - not everybody
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that still makes no sense...so when you turn 25 you're automatically ready to drive a fast car?
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i almost think like sema or something should/may get involved with this cuz it could have like state or nationwide ramifications...
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that still makes no sense...so when you turn 25 you're automatically ready to drive a fast car?
you are missing the point - the point is if you dont know what you are doing - you shouldnt be able to have a fast car - there should be a moron test when you buy go-fast parts or a fast car

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you are missing the point - the point is if you dont know what you are doing - you shouldnt be able to have a fast car - there should be a moron test when you buy go-fast parts or a fast car



But how does one learn how to control the car and thus not be considered a moron??? Professional drivers still crash cars pushing them to the limits. Granted that is normally on a closed course but they still crash.
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But how does one learn how to control the car and thus not be considered a moron??? Professional drivers still crash cars pushing them to the limits. Granted that is normally on a closed course but they still crash.
You just showed like exactly what the whole point is.... No matter what was or wasn't done to the car it could have crashed.... Venndors in my opinion like the big guys may perhaps want to uphold this fact.. Otherwise. Other casas could use this as a reason to introduce some gay law or something
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