***Audio/Subs/amp help***

[syP]

Just picked up 2 x 12" Alpine Type-R's from Riski.

Someone teach me whats the best setup for these... and a good Amp to power these.

Subwoofer Specifications
Subwoofer Size 12"
Subwoofer Design Round / Circle
Main Cone Color Dark Gray
Voice Coil(s) Dual (2 voice coils)
Impedance (per voice coil) 4 ohms
Peak Power Handling 1500 watts
RMS Power Handling 500 watts
Woofer Composition Kevlar Fiber
Woofer Surround Santoprene Rubber
Minimum Sealed Box Volume 0.57 cubic feet
Maximum Sealed Box Volume 1.0 cubic feet
Minimum Ported Box Volume 0.75 cubic feet
Maximum Ported Box Volume 2.0 cubic feet
Sensitivity 85 dB
Frequency Response 23 - 500 Hz
Xmax (millimeters) 18.2 mm
Top Mount Depth 7-3/4"
Shallow Mount Installation No
Cutout Diameter 11"
Recommended Enclosure Type Ported / Vented
Sealed

It came with red/black banana clips.. Where should i attach these. I have never setup a system like this before... Ive always bought subs/amp/box combo used in the past.


Whats a good amp to power these?? Or at least what should i be looking for.. Money really isnt an issue because i want a really nice setup.

HELP!

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[NetChemica]

 

[syP]

oh god i did relook at that post and it even made me laugh.

With all the 2 ohm/4 ohm, series wiring/parralel wiring, mono chanel/multi channel, dual coil/single coil terms.. and not knowing what wiring does what (certain ohms).. i wanna make sure i get the most out of these subs..

 

[SHOmuff]

 

[Oreif]

OK, Here is my suggestions.

1. Build a sealed box for the speakers. 12" speakers require roughly 2 cubic feet of space for each in a sealed box. For ported it is 1.5 times larger. Generally this won't fit in a trunk of a car. Isobaric boxes are smaller, But personally I think they take away some of the punch of the drums, but that is just my personal preference. Depending on the music you listen to could affect the type of box you want.

2. I would hook each dual voice coil into parallel for a 2-ohm impedence.

3. Then get this amp: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/p_20576_Rockford_Fosgate_P500-1bd.aspx
At 2-ohms you will be pumping 400W into each woofer. That should be plenty.

I use to do stereo install on the side and have built many custom subwoofer boxes over the years. Generally with newer vehicles some boxes need to be cutom built to fit properly and provide the proper speaker suspension for great sound.

 

[Outlaw]

I have 2 Type R-12's in my Suburban. I just upgraded to the Alpine MRP-M1000 Amp, it's a total beast. You're most likely going to need to upgrade your alternator and get a good capacitor though, that's my situation right now.

http://www.woofersetc.com/p6357/MRPM1000--Alpine-1000-Watt-Mono-Subwoofer-Amplifier.htm

 

[Xtant12]

These things are basically like my x1244's. I say get a ported box, and a good 2,000 watt amp and a power cap. I used 0 gauge wire at first but now used 4 and have had no problems.If the subs peak at 1500 watts then to be safe you will want to stay in a 500 watt difference area to be safe.

 

[Mike K]

Are you looking to shake the trunk off your car or just to have a speaker to fill in the lows and hit percussion harder? Because two of those in any of your cars is overkill.

 

[Oreif]

When picking an amp be aware some amps are rated at peak power and some are rated at RMS. You do not want to hook up a 1000W rms amp to a 500W rms speaker and crank the gain all the way up. If you did this you would change the speaker color to "blew".

Also make sure you do not over power the rest of the system. (example: 500W subs and only running 20W to the rest of the speakers in the car.)

 

[Xtant12]

When picking an amp be aware some amps are rated at peak power and some are rated at RMS. You do not want to hook up a 1000W rms amp to a 500W rms speaker and crank the gain all the way up. If you did this you would change the speaker color to "blew".

Also make sure you do not over power the rest of the system. (example: 500W subs and only running 20W to the rest of the speakers in the car.)

So true, sorry didnt think about that..

 

[Dasfinc]

He already has a solid box, and a pretty serious wiring setup *bows*

so mainly I think he/we are curious as to what amp is the best here *and ryan, I can sort out the wiring side, don't worry about that, i have the crimpers and banana ends here etc*

 

[Yaj Yak]

sell one of em. seriously. i had one 10 in a properly built vented box. (drawing coming soon) and the thing was fucking awesome til the rubber surround left the cone. sonbitch.

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Runtz52]

sick box, dont bother with a cap, just look into a better battery and/or alternator

 

[Yaj Yak]

yeah i just had a yellow top when i had my serious stereo setup.

i also at one point had a alpine type r 15- in that sort of box. it was pretty sickly insane. powered by a 1200.1 viper

 

[Runtz52]

yeah i just had a yellow top when i had my serious stereo setup.

i also at one point had a alpine type r 15- in that sort of box. it was pretty sickly insane. powered by a 1200.1 viper

i miss my subs so much, i think i may have to get back into it

 

[Riski]

i miss my subs so much, i think i may have to get back into it

I have 2 13.5 JL Audio W6V2's calling your name

 

[smug]

You only need one of those to do what you want to do...I have an Infinity Kappa sub in a vented pre-made box with about 500 watts going to it off my 10ZX700.5 amp, that is way under rated, and it hits plenty hard. The amp is less then half way up to lol

 

[Runtz52]

I have 2 13.5 JL Audio W6V2's calling your name

yea, for how much?

 

[syP]

Go big or Go home


Ill see how it is.. worst case scenario.. ill downgrade just to 1 12"

 

[AlmightyBirdman]

I have 2 Type R-12's in my Suburban. I just upgraded to the Alpine MRP-M1000 Amp, it's a total beast.
http://www.woofersetc.com/p6357/MRPM1000--Alpine-1000-Watt-Mono-Subwoofer-Amplifier.htm

x2, that amp is a beast. I've heard one of those power 2 CVR's and it makes some decent noise.

Hifonics is not a bad company to look into either. They make all different kinds of amps for every different setup. Kenwood is good too, I had a Kenwood amp with my old setup and it definitely put out more power than it said. Don't waste your money on a cap though. I have a 2 farad cap and I'm only running 1000 rms and at half power my lights still dim. Get a high output alternator and a decent battery.

 

[JDHedman]

use example 4 in the manual. and I like those in vented boxes. just find on close to or build one to spec.

the mrp-m1000 would sound good on them and not clean your wallet out

http://support.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/OM_SWR-1242D.PDF

 

[syP]

4 ohm load?

wouldnt i want a 2 ohm load if the amp can handle it?

 

[JDHedman]

good luck with that

you will need an amp for each sub. or get some dual 2 ohm subs. as ohms law says you cant get 4 4ohm voice coils to 2 ohms

you can run them at 1ohm but would need a 1 ohm stable amp.

 

[syP]

i was talkin with riski about it... i woudlnt really notice the difference unless im doin a competition.. amirite?