Plans changed on the DD/beater search

[Shibby50]

My parents have now decided it best that my brother and I put our money together and buy a car instead of us both buying 2k beaters. I wasn't for it at first, but then they swayed me into it with the bribe of it becomming my brothers car come summer and they re-emburst me what I put into it. I agreed since we can share for the winter and he's 16 and only drives to school and back. Now we have a little over 4k to spend on a car. Here'in lies the problem. It still has to get good mpg and cant have over 140k on it, but he wants something sporty since he's a junior in HS and who didn't want a cool car for their first right?
So we're looking at eclipse/tsi's, integras, preludes and even 3000gt/stealths.

We're going test driving a few of each all day tomorrow and will more than likely buy something this week because we need something soon.

I already learned the bad's about integra's.
Advice on reliability/mpg, good's and bads of the car's I listed?
Keep in mind we are an automotive family and we dont mind throwing some money here and there at some little things that go wrong with cars.

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[Dasfinc]

the insurance on 3000GT's/Stealths is INSANE, STEER CLEAR AND WIDE

You can get a 4th gen Lude for 4g's, Or a 1998+ Civic EX *Holds value well, and are typically fully loaded* Either I'd highly recommend.

 

[Shibby50]

the insurance on 3000GT's/Stealths is INSANE, STEER CLEAR AND WIDE

You can get a 4th gen Lude for 4g's, Or a 1998+ Civic EX *Holds value well, and are typically fully loaded* Either I'd highly recommend.

Are you saying that for he and I? One of my parents will most likely be insured on the car we buy. We are insured on the truck and camry.

 

[Shibby50]

Not that I have anything against ludes. I really like them, just hard to find a good manual one with no cancer and under 140k.

 

[DanJ]

GTP coupe. Runs forever,easy to work on, cheap to maintain

 

[Dasfinc]

Are you saying that for he and I? One of my parents will most likely be insured on the car we buy. We are insured on the truck and camry.

Doesn't matter, if those cars are ON the policy, and you are ON the policy, it will still be CRAZY high, they are in the same bracket as a Corvette. Also, if/when your brother totals it, if he is driving, it will skyrocket your families rates.

Not that I have anything against ludes. I really like them, just hard to find a good manual one with no cancer and under 140k.

VERRRRY few 4th gens have rust, even in the midwest.

Thats a 4th gen, which CAN be had for 3-4 grand with sub 140K easily, and the auto is 'autostick', tap shift, kinda fun.

*edit*

As mentioned below, GTP is a good idea too come to think of it.

 

[Mike K]

A GTP sounds like a winner here. Resale on them is nothing. You can pick up a 2000 or 2001 for your budget that should be in great shape. They last forever and they're simple to work on.

 

[Shibby50]

Thanks for the info, any leads to some of these cars would be very much appreciated. Apparently I don't know where to look lol.
Anything bad about the eclipse/tsi's? (newer model eclipses like 00-02)

 

[bikrboy128]

the 3000gt insurance is not at all ridiculous, their reliability however is shit.
i dont know why you would want a honda, they're slow as fuck and will rot away before your eyes. i would go with a tsi. turbo, manual, and awd = awesome. yes, it's a DSM so you might run into a few issues here and there, but it's all part of the DSM experience.

or get a gtp

 

[Dasfinc]

the 3000gt insurance is not at all ridiculous, their reliability however is shit.
i dont know why you would want a honda, they're slow as fuck and will rot away before your eyes. i would go with a tsi. turbo, manual, and awd = awesome. yes, it's a DSM so you might run into a few issues here and there, but it's all part of the DSM experience.

or get a gtp

For a 16 year old, the insurance is crazy...

And yes, their reliability does suck.

 

[Shibby50]

I'm not worried about it being a race-car, but sporty and decnt. I don't want my brother to kill himself, but he handles my slow mustang pretty well. The issues with the dsm's I know of a few and most don't seem to bother me.

 

[bikrboy128]

For a 16 year old, the insurance is crazy...

that's why you dont put the 16 year old as the primary driver, genius.
it will be impossible to find a 3000gt that isnt beat to shit for under 4k anyway.

go tsi, they are very easy to work on and alot of fun to drive with endless mod potential. i've wanted one for awhile now, but just havent had the funds around to do it.

 

[Dasfinc]

I'm not worried about it being a race-car, but sporty and decnt. I don't want my brother to kill himself, but he handles my slow mustang pretty well. The issues with the dsm's I know of a few and most don't seem to bother me.

how much are non turbo AWD subies selling for?

 

[Shibby50]

Neither me nor my brother are fans of the 90's gen suby's and the only 00 and up ones we can find in the price range are the legacy's which I heard arent so fun on the mpg side.

 

[Shibby50]

It's looking like we'll be narrowing it down between a dsm and lude, pending on what we can find in good shape. Aftermarket parts aren't something to scare us away either. That's what the test drive is for.

And I agree that working on the car because of a few problems will be a learning experience for him that he does need.

 

[DarkShadow]

Grand am gt. The 3400 is plenty reliable and its a sporty lookin car

 

[Shibby50]

Grand am gt. The 3400 is plenty reliable and its a sporty lookin car

Too many people have grand am's/prix's and I'm not against them in any way as far as modding/reliability, but the looks just arent for us. Just personal opinion sorry.

 

[Shibby50]

Well I'm out for the night, any leads to a lude or dsm for around 4k chicagoland area would be much appreciated/ I'll paypal you $10 if we end up buying it lol.

Thanks for all the advice/opinions guys.

 

[Angus]

I would go GTP coupe

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

2.5RS
gtp
a4

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1884530&highlight=2.5rs

 

[Bru]

2.5 RS FTW. I want one of those myself. Gonna be hard to find, but like Joel linked to, check the Subie forums.

 

[Angus]

you can get a pretty nice old's cutlass for that coin.

 

[AlmightyBirdman]

Gonna have to say gtp as well

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

2.5 RS FTW. I want one of those myself. Gonna be hard to find, but like Joel linked to, check the Subie forums.

Yea if you're willing to travel a bit you can find nice cars for good prices. The 2.5rs is a stout setup. I know someone who did only suspension mods and small engine stuff and does track days all the time. I wanna say he's got like 10k miles on a track with that car with no problems.