which one?

[Angus]

for a stock 2v, would you guys suggest roots-style or a procharger style?

I know a procharger is easier to install and gives more upper range hp, whereas a roots blower is more fun down low but a bit more installation intensive...

basically, I need a shibby vs blackbeard result. lol

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[Shibby50]

haha well I guess mark and I need to race
but in all seriousness, he'd kill me but not because of the difference in superchargers.

I love my pro-charger, I have a very conservative tune and doubt my numbers are anywhere near what his are, but I also have almost no supporting mods. Just what came with the kit and an x-pipe and cat-back.

Both are very reliable and can be pullied easily. It just depends on the kind of power you want. Instant or top-end

 

[Shibby50]

I think the pro-charger is a little less harsh on the motor and trans though since it spools as opposed to the instant power

 

[Angus]

yeah i like that it is easier to install, easier on the parts since it's not instant torque, and I'd rather have a higher top end really, than a lower end... I dunno still... hearing blower whine would be sweet too...

 

[EmersonHart13]

Any thoughts on Turbo?

 

[Angus]

that would require dropping the motor I believe...

And on stock 2v internal parts, why would a turbo be better than a s/c? There's a boost ceiling there right?

 

[Shibby50]

Yeah I'll admit I wish I could have the whine too

 

[Runtz52]

Shibbys stang is pretty sick, ive felt better torque off the line, but once he gets in the upper RPMs it just keeps pulling, i guess u could call it torque creep haha, ive seen marks stang and its pretty sweet, the only bitch with prochargers is changing the oil that was a bitch

 

[blakbearddelite]

Opinions vary on what is ideal. I think the roots are great for the street because you don't need the high rpms to make neck snapping boost. Centri's are good because they're easier on your drivetrain. Turbo's are great for the same reason, but sometimes the cost of the set-up can be almost twice what you'd pay for a blower.
I think that all other things being equal, a roots would be slightly faster as the power band is a bit fatter. Centri's are generally cheaper than the roots style too. I guess you really have to decide what you're looking for first. You're more than welcome to go for a ride in my car to experience the KB. Though it will feel much stronger in your car as it is a manual.

 

[blakbearddelite]

Shibbys stang is pretty sick, ive felt better torque off the line, but once he gets in the upper RPMs it just keeps pulling, i guess u could call it torque creep haha, ive seen marks stang and its pretty sweet, the only bitch with prochargers is changing the oil that was a bitch

The whine is nice for sure. But the roots do kind of suffer slightly on top end compared to the centri's.

I think Vortech now makes self-contained oil units, not so sure about Prochargers though.

 

[CrawlinTBSS]

either or will do fine. just make sure you have supporting air and fuel and a good tune on it. dont just slap a kit on and drive around.

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

Procharger.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

KB

 

[greasy]

If you do go the centri blower route, I would suggest the Paxton Novi 2000. It is good up to 900 RWHP.

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

Procharger.

Correction. Procharger with a cogged belt.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

KB

X2

 

[syP]

KB

 

[The Broken Regal]

damn took that long for a couple people to post up KB

KB KB KB

 

[Angus]

I would rather want a KB I think, but all things considered: price, ease of install, easier on the drivetrain, and that it can create more power up top, I think I may go the centri route... hmm

 

[Eagle]

BIG KB

 

[syP]

I would rather want a KB I think, but all things considered: price, ease of install, easier on the drivetrain, and that it can create more power up top, I think I may go the centri route... hmm

just have logan motorsports put it on and tune it.


you will thank me later.

 

[greasy]

BIG KB

Big KB with low boost because stock motor will not handle more than 400rwhp for long on the stock bottom end.

 

[blakbearddelite]

Don't waste your money on the 2.1L, I'd start out with the next highest one which is probably a 2.6. You'll probably have to run a 4" pulley though, but you should still be safe.

 

[Grabber]

I pretty much have both types of cars on a 3V and a 4V car.

The Centri blower is decent down low, and pulls like a monster up top and the power does not fall off.

My Roots blower on my 4V gets all 500+ TQ at 2500 RPM and the power doesn't fall off unless I over-rev the motor. Shifting at 6500 RPM, the power will stay perfectly level and the powerband perfectly even through each gear.

Centris are not as harsh on the motor/drivetrain. Roots/TS?Turbos are harder due to the increase in overall power and torque.

IMO, A turbo is your best bet. They are more efficient than a Roots or Centri blower, even some TS blowers. Generally they will make more TQ than a roots/TS or Centri blower, but not always more HP, depending on the boost level.

You can pick up a Roots blower for about 6500 bucks installed and tuned, and a centri for about 4500 installed and tuned. It all comes down to how fast you want to make all/most of your power, and how fast you want your car.

-Chris

 

[logan@deansperformance]

just have logan motorsports put it on and tune it.


you will thank me later.

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