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Old 06-02-2019, 10:47 PM   #1
 
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I know very little about sound systems. I would appreciate any help.


My 2005 F350 has a speaker that is failing in the driver's side door. I would like to replace them all with something better. Factory speakers are 6x8's. Two in the front in the door panels, and two in the rear "C pillar." They have been replaced by the previous owner, but I'm not sure what exactly the brand is. I don't think they are much of an upgrade from factory either.


My headunit is a Kenwood KDC-797. It's something like 50x4 watts peak and 22 watts RMS. I'd like to get some speakers that will work well with this without an amp. With that said, if I can't hear a significant difference in sound without an amp, I would add one.


Searching online, it looks like it's popular to switch to a 6.5" round speaker, which basically bolts in. Or, modify the door a little and go with a 6x9.

I'd like to spend $150 or less, unless I have to add an amp.


From what I can find online, in this price range 6.5's are probably better? Is that usually true?


Any input on what I should do here? I'm not sure how to pick a speaker that will work well with my headunit. Thanks in advance for the help.
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I have been out of the sounds game for a while and just now getting back in to it with my Regal. I have been doing just basic shit last few years (1 sub/amp). What you heard about going 6.5's is exactly what I have been told by several people. I was going to do 4) 6x9's in my rear deck and was told to do 4) 6.5's. I might still go the 4) 6x9 route depending on ease of installation.
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$150 isn’t going to get you much. Hop on crutchfield and find whatever has the best reviews for that price range.

You really need to step up to an amp for any sort of quality sound. Night/day difference. Head unit amplifiers are garbage for anything that isn’t a beater work vehicle.
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That's really what I'm finding. If I want decent sound, I need to install an amp.

Honestly, I'd rather use cheaper speakers and install a couple of 10's or 12's under the back seat for bass.
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Crutchfield is my go to... They might be a tad pricier than just shopping around, but they give you everything for the install including instructions. Makes life easy.
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Round speakers have better sound than oval, so the 6.5’s would be better, for 150 your better off getting a four pack off amazon or just going to Walmart, decent speakers aren’t cheap but like has already been said using the headunit for power, it probably won’t make a difference what kind of speaker you use anyway
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Ok, good to hear. No reason for me to spend much on speakers if I'm not going to amp them.

I used to have an 04 F150 with a stock sound system. I stuck a single 10" kicker sub under the back seat powered by a TMA 500.1. I used the stock head unit and stock speakers otherwise. I tapped into one speaker with a line out converter that fed the amp. With this setup, I was able to turn the bass down to where the stock speakers actually sounded good and use the sub for bass. For the $300 I had invested, it sounded great. I should just try to do something similar on this.
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If you care about sound quality in respect to tonal quality, soundstage, and imaging I'd go for a 6.5" round component set. Many of the budget component sets have a matching (cheaper) coaxial set available for the rear.

To help with budget you could leave the existing rear speakers as is until more funds allow.
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If you care about sound quality in respect to tonal quality, soundstage, and imaging I'd go for a 6.5" round component set. Many of the budget component sets have a matching (cheaper) coaxial set available for the rear.

To help with budget you could leave the existing rear speakers as is until more funds allow.
Do component sets have much better sound than coaxial sets?
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Bumping this back up with new info.

After more research, these are the speakers I have now. Better than I thought, but still not the great. Maybe?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500SS5...emno=500SPS517

The blown speaker is really annoying me now as it's getting worse all the time. I had thought about just replacing the front two with the same speakers, but they are kind of pricey. I'm now thinking about leaving the rears for now and replacing the fronts with these. Thoughts?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_105CSD...l?tp=105&avf=N

If I can ok it with the wife, I will probably add a couple 12" subs behind the rear seat, hopefully before hunting season.
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Oh good thread here. I just bought a 2006 Super Duty and Iíve been thinking of upgrading the sound system a little bit.
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If you want to add components with tweeters, this may be useful for you.

https://www.thedieselstop.com/forums...-290381/?amp=1
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If you want to add components with tweeters, this may be useful for you.

https://www.thedieselstop.com/forums...-290381/?amp=1


Now that I like. I was wondering about a good spot for tweeters. I like that flushed finish.
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Ok, update.

Bought these on ebay.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F271629448154

I have the adapters coming from crutchfield.
I still need to order the sail panels for the tweeters.

I also ordered two of these from crutchfield as they had $50 off each.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_206CWR....html?tp=68897

Still need to get a box and find an amp too.
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Just ordered the sail panels. Found one on amazon for $25. The other cost me $107 though.
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