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Ryan02Stang 04-22-2019 11:39 AM

GM Part #19210071 - How do I get one?
 
My old man has a 2005 Vette and a year ago it started acting up (only has ~20k miles on it), would randomly die out and wouldn't start up again.

He took it to the dealer, and they said his ECM is bad, and he needs a new one. Problem is, GM discontinued the part and they don't know where to get one, or if they'll ever be able to get one. It has been at the dealer for over 6 months, and they told him they will hold it indefinitely until they can find a solution, but its crazy at this point.

I'm not a GM guy so I have no idea where to go for this. But I assume there has to be some aftermarket company that sells ECM's for Vettes (or other GM's that share this part). I see them on eBay...but will that even work? I assume they have to be flashed properly in order to work.

Any ideas form the GM bois here? Part detail below.

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-parts/gm-ecm-19210071

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 11:43 AM

https://www.gmpartswarehouse.com/oem...SABEgLE8vD_BwE

Now, I was able to put it in my cart, but since I'm not buying, didn't go any further. So I don't know if you'll hit the roadblock then.

Otherwise Fleabay has a bunch of refurbed ones but they are much more expensive.

Ryan02Stang 04-22-2019 11:45 AM

Appreciate the link! Not a bad price either.

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 11:47 AM

You might want to call/email them and give them the VIN# just to be sure.

Once you get it, there are also a bunch of procedures that need to be done to get it to work in the car too, so factor that in.

TommyGloves 04-22-2019 01:42 PM

RockAuto has them too refurbished https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/ac...computer),2896

TommyGloves 04-22-2019 01:51 PM

You could also give these guys a call...that P/N cross-references with 05 Grand Prixs. They had an 04 and an 06 PCM listed but not an 05. HTH

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Ryan02Stang 04-22-2019 02:58 PM

Thanks. I guess the part that I'm confused at though...is if I buy one of these off of RockAuto, or elsewhere....what does it entail to get it to work after purchase? I assume some programming has to be involved, or wouldn't a dealer just order from one of these sites? If it does require programming...who can do it?

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 03:01 PM

If I remember tonight, I can post the exact things a fresh PCM needs to be linked into the network and doing all the "learn" procedures.

TommyGloves 04-22-2019 04:24 PM

^^^ Exactly...the dealer should be able to do all of the service programming and updating of the existing mileage, VIN, security learn the keys, dash cluster stuff and then perform all of the "learn" procedures with their GM Tech II or diagnostic/programming tools.

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 04:33 PM

Some you can do you with just a Tech2 or MDI, some things do require connection to the Warren Tech Center for authorizations.

I've done them in the past with mine, but anything with mileage or other authorization requirements, I can't do as I don't have a line to GM.

Ryan02Stang 04-22-2019 04:49 PM

Just got off the phone with my old man. He called the dealer and asked if he brought them one could they do the programming as mentioned. They said as long as it had never been used in another vehicle, they could program it.

I'm going to call both sites listed up top (thanks again guys) and see what the deal with those parts are, and if they've been previously used.

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 05:04 PM

I believe if it's been used it has to be flashed, before any of the base programming/learn's can be done.

The reason I can't tell you exactly is that even from year to year, 1 model can have completely different SOP's based on the hardware/network. Which was frustrating with other GM vehicles where what was applicable to a GP, wasn't applicable to a Bonneville, or a Camaro.

cmntmxr57 04-22-2019 10:56 PM

So looking this up, there are three things that need to be done on 2005 Corvette's for a PCM replacement after install of new unit.

1) Service Programming System (SPS) (which is essentially learning the PCM to the car)

2) CKP Learn

3) Theft Deterrent

Ryan02Stang 04-24-2019 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmntmxr57 (Post 3895893)
https://www.gmpartswarehouse.com/oem...SABEgLE8vD_BwE

Now, I was able to put it in my cart, but since I'm not buying, didn't go any further. So I don't know if you'll hit the roadblock then.

Otherwise Fleabay has a bunch of refurbed ones but they are much more expensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyGloves (Post 3895961)

Tried to buy one on both of these sites and both are out of stock (even though they were showing in stock). I called the dude at gmpartswarehouse, and he said this part is a huge backorder problem and he has no idea when (if ever) he'll get them back in stock. He said he's had a bunch of Corvette and GTO guys calling him looking for this part.

I'm going to keep searching, but it looks like eBay might be the way to go. Blows my mind GM would not stock up on this part, or get a 3rd party manufacturer to support, before they stopped making it.

Yaj Yak 04-24-2019 01:05 PM

this is silly but, try the junkyard?

Yaj Yak 04-24-2019 01:05 PM

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Yaj Yak 04-24-2019 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan02Stang (Post 3897057)
Tried to buy one on both of these sites and both are out of stock (even though they were showing in stock). I called the dude at gmpartswarehouse, and he said this part is a huge backorder problem and he has no idea when (if ever) he'll get them back in stock. He said he's had a bunch of Corvette and GTO guys calling him looking for this part.

I'm going to keep searching, but it looks like eBay might be the way to go. Blows my mind GM would not stock up on this part, or get a 3rd party manufacturer to support, before they stopped making it.

i mean, try to get a specialized 14 year old OEM only part from any domestic manufacturer and you might find a similar fate.

Ryan02Stang 04-24-2019 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaj Yak (Post 3897061)
i mean, try to get a specialized 14 year old OEM only part from any domestic manufacturer and you might find a similar fate.

Yeah...probably. Just sucks when its a part the car won't run without LOL

Yaj Yak 04-24-2019 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan02Stang (Post 3897063)
Yeah...probably. Just sucks when its a part the car won't run without LOL

I mean, also, it just won't run? Or what's the deal?






I wonder if it's even the ecm that's bad....

cmntmxr57 04-24-2019 01:11 PM

Have you parused Corvetteforum?

Ryan02Stang 04-24-2019 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaj Yak (Post 3897064)
I mean, also, it just won't run? Or what's the deal?






I wonder if it's even the ecm that's bad....

It runs...and then randomly shuts off and then every dash light comes on. You can't get more than 30-40 minutes driving on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmntmxr57 (Post 3897066)
Have you parused Corvetteforum?

Yeah...reading on there this afternoon. Seems like a few people have the same issue, referred to some guys shop....guys shop has shit reviews about ripping people off. I need to keep reading on there.

Ryan02Stang 04-24-2019 01:36 PM

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-em-quick.html

Looks like this guy might be my best bet, but his online reviews are iffy. Going to call him up and see what he says.

Ryan02Stang 04-24-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaj Yak (Post 3897060)

Did searching on here...seems one guy out of Spicer MN has all the listings on that site...and on eBay...no other suppliers.

I'm going to give this guy a call along with the guy from Corvette Forum. Thanks!

98GrandPrixIraqVet 04-24-2019 02:43 PM

So let me get this straight dealership has car for over 6 months and says they cant get a pcm but they are available through rockauto?

Sounds like great dealership!.............:rofl:

98GrandPrixIraqVet 04-24-2019 02:45 PM

Also isnt there a a few GM tuners that could setup a computer to be plug and play?

I mean remote tuning support is incredible now a days IMO.


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