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Old 03-06-2019, 06:49 PM   #1
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So, bored here and thinking about leveling the truck.
I know @Bub had 2 different types of leveling kits on his truck.
one style better than another ?
one brand better than another ?
@crooks suggestions ?
@HILROD interested to know if theres any janky shit I should steer clear from

what about a mild 3 or 3.5" lift ?

I would lean towards the leveling kit because I may just have the stock wheels powdercoated and buy a new set of Toyos.
versus lifting and I may want new wheels and tires....don't need to spend "all" the moneys on this..

so as @Yaj Yak would say................
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Are you want to remove rake completely or just reduce rake?
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This was mine. Simple easy to do 2Ē Rough Country bottom mount (under the strut) poly leveling kit, aligned just fine, drove it problem free for 2 years without CV problems or odd tire wear. If I ever get another truck Iíll do the exact same thing.

*edit. The entire reason I did this was so I could fit a 33Ē Hankook ATM in the front without having to do the fender mod and not have any rubbing.

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It depends on the manufacture of truck, a lift will not wear out cv joints and upper ball joints, but if you have to drop the front axle assembly, youíll most likely have to remove frame mounts, and it will be tough to go back to stock.
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No torsion bars on the newer ones. I put on a couple leveling kits. I think the spring spacers and shock spacers are like 2 or so are as far as you can go without changing the upper control arms(or ball joints every other month). One guy at work tried over 3 and ate his balljoints and tires, so I fixed it. Maybe I can get a picture of my bosses 2 or 2.5 front lift tomorrow. He also put air lift bags on the back and keeps them hella full. Forget his tire sizes tho.
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I think level kits look off. I feel like they make the ass end squat and look silly. A small lift kit doesn't look bad with meatier tires though.
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I think level kits look off. I feel like they make the ass end squat and look silly. A small lift kit doesn't look bad with meatier tires though.
This.

Colorado was too level and ended up lifting back an inch to bring it back to looking right.
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Level kit options are spacers or new shocks. I had both on my 14 GMC. 10 ply tires hurt the comfy stock ride almost as much as the spacers. After the level/lift shocks came out. I ditched the spacer and I got back most of the factory ride. When I sold the truck it had the extra +1" Rough Country rear leaf spring block, +2" Bilstein rear shocks, and +2" Rancho quick lifts up front. I had 275/65R20 which a 34" tire since I did the first spacer level. No fender cutting or big hammer mods.

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I wouldnt bother with a 3.5" lift kit. I would go 6" or more depending if you want 35"s or 37"s . If 6" would get a BDS kit with decent shocks.
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@cdh027 which lift kits do you like? I know you had a couple lifted Chevys.
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2" RC strut spacer and 1.5" Zone add a leaf. Still on stock 275/55/20 tires. I don't have the heart to ditch good tires no matter how much they suck. Plan will be 275/60/20 when these wear out. Ride is noticably stiffer but I wouldn't say obnoxious. I've been playing with the idea of putting the .5" top spacer in when I do tires. We will see. Name:  IMG_20190131_203713.jpeg
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2" RC strut spacer and 1.5" Zone add a leaf. Still on stock 275/55/20 tires. I don't have the heart to ditch good tires no matter how much they suck. Plan will be 275/60/20 when these wear out. Ride is noticably stiffer but I wouldn't say obnoxious. I've been playing with the idea of putting the .5" top spacer in when I do tires. We will see. Attachment 37975


Those the stock Goodyear RSAís? I fucking hated those tires!!!! Someone would spit out the window in front of me and Iíd lose traction if I ran it over. I donít even think I got 30k out of those tires before I got rid of them, I got sick of looking out the drivers side window to see where I was trying to go while unintentionally drifting around corners.
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@cdh027 which lift kits do you like? I know you had a couple lifted Chevys.
Skip the level kits and go straight to a quality lift kit even if it's only a 4". Stay away from rough country. I've had BDS and now have CST. If I could do it again I would go straight to bulletproof and a rear cantilever setup.
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So, bored here and thinking about leveling the truck.
I know @Bub had 2 different types of leveling kits on his truck.
one style better than another ?
one brand better than another ?
@crooks suggestions ?
@HILROD interested to know if theres any janky shit I should steer clear from

what about a mild 3 or 3.5" lift ?

I would lean towards the leveling kit because I may just have the stock wheels powdercoated and buy a new set of Toyos.
versus lifting and I may want new wheels and tires....don't need to spend "all" the moneys on this..

so as @Yaj Yak would say................
and go
4" BDS with the coilover option will be perfect for you. It will actually ride better than stock.
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Skip the level kits and go straight to a quality lift kit even if it's only a 4". Stay away from rough country. I've had BDS and now have CST. If I could do it again I would go straight to bulletproof and a rear cantilever setup.
with the money you were overhand throwing at your truck you should have gone legit long travel kit or solid axle swap
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gav i wouldn't lift your truck.
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i mean so many factors here... what size tires would you go to? what gear ratio is your truck, you don't want to swap gears right? or maybe you do?

do you care about staying under 7' to clear most* parking garages?
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gav i wouldn't lift your truck.
Everybody has an opinion of what other people should do with their hard earned money. Do what makes you happy.
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Turn torsion bars up, be happy.
Uhhhhh
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I’d lower the rear to level it and enjoy.



Also “mild 3-4” lift” cracks me up.
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I did longer shackles in the back. Lift with no loss in ride quality.
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Everybody has an opinion of what other people should do with their hard earned money. Do what makes you happy.
I'm not talking shit about your truck.
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I did longer shackles in the back. Lift with no loss in ride quality.
That would lower it for him so I agree with this.
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