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Old 11-20-2018, 09:16 AM   #26
 
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I couldnít imagine towing a 30ft travel trailer with such short wheelbase vehicles. Iíd really look into a Suburban/Expedition.
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Can I see a pic of this rig? I'm intrigued.


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That's damn close once you add passengers assuming you're at a true 10% on tongue weight
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I couldnít imagine towing a 30ft travel trailer with such short wheelbase vehicles. Iíd really look into a Suburban/Expedition.
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I feel like that trailer would manhandle a small crossover in a stiff crosswind
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I feel like that trailer would manhandle a small crossover in a stiff crosswind
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most the suv's he mentioned weigh more than most half ton pickup trucks





q7 wheelbase... 117 inches.

regular cab 6.5' bed truck wheelbase.... 119 inches.

trailblazer ext wheelbase... 129 inches.

reg cab 8' bed wheelbase... 131 inches.
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@keitho64 i'd hit up a vw/audi/porsche forum and find real world experience with those vehicles from their owners.



tcg gonna tell you you need an F550 with airbrakes to tow your load.
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most the suv's he mentioned weigh more than most half ton pickup trucks





q7 wheelbase... 117 inches.

regular cab 6.5' bed truck wheelbase.... 119 inches.

trailblazer ext wheelbase... 129 inches.

reg cab 8' bed wheelbase... 131 inches.

I was referring solely to his Saab use. 113" WB, which is still longer than I thought. Still though, 30' is a lotta trailer.
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just think what 2wd trailblazer ss's were rated to tow... something like 7000lbs?
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just think what 2wd trailblazer ss's were rated to tow... something like 7000lbs?
Didn't know that either. But you can squeeze 7k into like a tandem axle 6x12 pretty easily, so I guess it's not too outlandish since trailers fill up pretty quick.
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tcg gonna tell you you need an F550 with airbrakes to tow your load.
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I used to tow a 20' car hauler with my 5.3 trailblazer all the time, once with a motor and trans infront of a car that still had a motor in it trailer was 2k empty
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Didn't know that either. But you can squeeze 7k into like a tandem axle 6x12 pretty easily, so I guess it's not too outlandish since trailers fill up pretty quick.
i dont know what recreational "tower" is going to stuff into a 6x12 trailer that weighs 7k lbs to be honest.
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i dont know what recreational tower is going to stuff into a 6x12 trailer that weighs 7k lbs to be honest.
agreed, but maybe the guy bought a TBSS to have a fun SUV and tow his work trailer to jobsites.
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That's damn close once you add passengers assuming you're at a true 10% on tongue weight


This is the setup. Iíve been dragging this along since 2011. I doubt Iíve towed more than 5,000 miles total since i tend to stay in the Midwest.

It has been to PA and there were some hills that it had a hard time climbing. I had to drop to 50 or so on the climb. All in all not bad considering the load.

I have a large trans cooler on it and the trans temps will climb to 230-240 under load which isnít bad.

Prior to the Saab i had the long wheel base Trailblazer. The Saab has 3.73 gearing vs the 3.42 in the Chevy. A combination of gearing and a lighter tow vehicle makes the Saab easier to tow. I have a load leveling hitch and sway control. Iíve never had issues with this.

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you won't do a diesel excursion right?
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No. I know it will tow my house as well as the trailer but it will never fit in my garage.
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what's your garage limitations?
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Garage is 28x32 but door height is too low for an Excursion/Tahoe. An expedition may fit but i think that would be the limit. The long wheel base Trailblazer fit but it was tight with the work benches up front.

My wife is OK with me consuming the garage in summer but in winter I store the toys so she can use it.

I may have to grab a Tahoe for a test drive and see if it will fit. That may be a better option.
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that's got to be a touch of a low door you've got?

i think expeditions are typically taller than a tahoe also so you're aware.

2010 tahoe is 76.9, expedition is 77.4 from a quick google.
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Garage is 28x32 but door height is too low for an Excursion/Tahoe. An expedition may fit but i think that would be the limit. The long wheel base Trailblazer fit but it was tight with the work benches up front.

My wife is OK with me consuming the garage in summer but in winter I store the toys so she can use it.

I may have to grab a Tahoe for a test drive and see if it will fit. That may be a better option.
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Garage is 28x32 but door height is too low for an Excursion/Tahoe. An expedition may fit but i think that would be the limit. The long wheel base Trailblazer fit but it was tight with the work benches up front.

My wife is OK with me consuming the garage in summer but in winter I store the toys so she can use it.

I may have to grab a Tahoe for a test drive and see if it will fit. That may be a better option.
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i think expeditions are typically taller than a tahoe also so you're aware.

2010 tahoe is 76.9, expedition is 77.4 from a quick google.
I was convinced my Expo wouldn't fit in my garage (height wise) but it cleared with ease. I can measure the height of my garage if you want.

Have you driven an Expo/Tahoe? They're big, but I never thought it was TOO big. Empty gas mileage won't be too bad, but my parents towing a 7000+ pound trailer were only getting about 11ish with the 5.4/6-speed combo. But power was never an issue. If you get a 15-17 EcoBoost Expo, you'll be able to tow pretty much anything you want, and it's SUPER comfortable cruiser.
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I was convinced my Expo wouldn't fit in my garage (height wise) but it cleared with ease. I can measure the height of my garage if you want.

Have you driven an Expo/Tahoe? They're big, but I never thought it was TOO big. Empty gas mileage won't be too bad, but my parents towing a 7000+ pound trailer were only getting about 11ish with the 5.4/6-speed combo. But power was never an issue. If you get a 15-17 EcoBoost Expo, you'll be able to tow pretty much anything you want, and it's SUPER comfortable cruiser.


Yeah I have a 7' door and my 3500 clears it

and i agree... they aren't "too big"... everyone rocks 5.5' bed crew cabs lately now anyways and those are a good chunk longer themselves.
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I measured the height and I have 82Ē to the door which is more that I thought. The Saab is at 75Ē to the top of the roof rack.

This gives me hope that a Tahoe may just do the trick. Iím still going to have Barb test drive one and bring it home to check.

While it wouldnít be a diesel it does cover everything else.
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I think your wallet will thank you after a few years of not having to pay VAG repair bills.

I think a 'Hoe would do you good. Maybe won't get you the mileage you're looking for, but I think it'll pay off in spades elsewhere.
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