So the company that owns SCT is getting fucked by the govt

[Mook]

https://fox17online.com/2018/09/24/company-penalized-for-disabling-vehicles-emissions-controls/

DETROIT (AP) — The government says a Florida company will spend more than $6 million in penalties and repair costs for selling computer software that disables automotive emissions controls.


The Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency say that Derive Systems of Sanford, Florida, sold 363,000 products that violated the Clean Air Act.

In a civil settlement, Derive must pay a $300,000 penalty and spend $6.25 million to fix the products so they don’t violate the law. Messages were left Monday seeking comment from Derive.

Government documents say Derive sold the software under the SCT and Bully Dog brands. The government says hand-held products known as “tuners” would overwrite automaker programs. The software would stop catalytic converters, particulate filters and other emissions controls from working.

The company also must stop selling the software

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[Flyn]

First step in making tuners illegal?

 

[RICH17]

ummm they're listed for off road use only tho

 

[Sprayin]

I've seen this floating around online today. I didn't realize it was the owner of SCT but that makes sense now looking at the numbers. Wonder how bad this is going to fuck the car enthusiast community.

 

[greasy]

Oh wow this is fucked.

 

[Blood on Blood]

Interested to see how this plays out

 

[boostedguy05]

will HPT and Holley be next?

 

[b4black]

The company also must stop selling the software.

I wonder if they remove the ability to delete emissions devices (converters and DPFs) if they will still be allowed, or if tuning software is going away completely.



About 2 years ago they cracked down on Casper's Electronics for selling O2 simulators. https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/caspers-electronics-inc-clean-air-act

 

[greasy]

I just loaded a tune on my SCT X2 yesterday. This old shit isn't even supported anymore, had to do some deep digging on the web to find LiveLoad.

 

[Mike K]

It's not some sort of wide crack down. It's totally random. Caspers Electronics got hit maybe 10 years ago for the o2 simulators. Burger Tuning (the company that makes the popular JB4 tuner for BMWs) got hit by California a few years back too.

You can't sell this stuff for offroad use only either. That's no longer a loophole.

 

[Marko]

Our government doesn’t have more important shit to worry about?

They just want that money.

 

[Pressure Ratio]

Ya, several tuning companies have been getting whacked in the last few years.

I was flipping channels on the TV and say Diesel Brothers even had a title and voice over about not modifying vehicles emissions equipment. Or something to that effect.

 

[Yaj Yak]

black market sct shit

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Just tell Trump that these regulations are costing businesses millions....he will remove the act tomorrow

 

[Mook]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...-to-enhance-industry-practices-300718323.html

With the goal of delivering its innovative vehicle technology in a way that creates certainty for its customers, Derive Systems entered into the agreement with EPA. This landmark agreement provides a clear path for Derive's existing tuning products and new products to thrive in the market with EPA's approval, including its market-leading catalog of existing tuners. The agreement additionally resolves EPA allegations primarily stemming from several of its products that were developed by legacy companies prior to Derive's acquisition of them.

 

[greasy]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...-to-enhance-industry-practices-300718323.html

GET US ALL WORKED UP FOR NOTHING

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

black market sct shit

Software will be cracked regardless of regulation. Regulations doesn't fix exploits

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

“The software would stop catalytic converters from working”

 

[Spivitz]

Hopefully Illinois don't bring back an inspection test

 

[Mook]

Kind of funny how this story broke yesterday and within 24 hours an agreement was made...sounds like a govt shakedown.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Software will be cracked regardless of regulation. Regulations doesn't fix exploits

well duh

 

[Chet Donnelly]

I'm in for a full repeal on the Clean Air Act!

 

[ragingclue]

Doc is here if anyone wants to read it (sorry if it's already been linked): https://www.justice.gov/enrd/consent-decree/file/1095996/download

Interesting read for sure.

 

[95SC]

Bunch of gaverment scams trying to get money for them selfts from wrong businesses . Brunch of fucken gaverment crooks

 

[CMNTMXR57]

“The software would stop catalytic converters from working”

I was gonna post this too... LOL!