Carfax accidents and trade in values

[Lead Pipe]

So to make a long story short we are looking to trade my wife's 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk in on a 2014-2016 Grand Cherokee. She always wanted the GC but we settled on the Trailhawk and now we have enough positive equity to make the trade.

Here's the issue. In the spring I borrowed her car and it has an auto start/stop feature. When I was at a light the car lunged and I was too close to the guy in front of me and I tapped him, and I mean tapped. The dick bag had no damage on his car other than a scuff that can be buffed out , none on mine either, but of course he has to call the cops and file a report. He's also trying for a personal injury claim and my insurance isn't having it just to explain the type of shit head this guy is. Anyways we found a GC at the dealer we originally bought the Cherokee from and we gave them our info to get a trade value. The salesman said the car was in an accident and it may effect the value. The car isn't damaged, has never been repaired and is showing an accident based on the police report. Can they devalue the trade because of this? How hard can I push back?

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[Outlaw]

You're kinda SOL. You can't even go after Carfax for a discrepancy, which is a pain in the ass all its own. Your only option would've been to pursue a diminished value claim after the report was filed, essentially covering the gap between clean title value and accident damaged value. Since the car is less than 5 years old this would've been viable.

Other than that you're just going to have to suck it up and take less for the car.

 

[LikeABauce302]

Unfortunately they will give you less on trade in. I've been fighting State Farm for a diminished value claim for over two months now and I'm getting nowhere with it. I was in an accident driving my dad's 2016 Chrysler 200. After multiple appraisals, we're told the car is worth between $3,000 to $6,000 less with a collision listed on the Carfax.

 

[Lead Pipe]

I just can't wrap my head around a diminished value with no damage.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

So to make a long story short we are looking to trade my wife's 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk in on a 2014-2016 Grand Cherokee. She always wanted the GC but we settled on the Trailhawk and now we have enough positive equity to make the trade.

Here's the issue. In the spring I borrowed her car and it has an auto start/stop feature. When I was at a light the car lunged and I was too close to the guy in front of me and I tapped him, and I mean tapped. The dick bag had no damage on his car other than a scuff that can be buffed out , none on mine either, but of course he has to call the cops and file a report. He's also trying for a personal injury claim and my insurance isn't having it just to explain the type of shit head this guy is. Anyways we found a GC at the dealer we originally bought the Cherokee from and we gave them our info to get a trade value. The salesman said the car was in an accident and it may effect the value. The car isn't damaged, has never been repaired and is showing an accident based on the police report. Can they devalue the trade because of this? How hard can I push back?

You're kinda SOL. You can't even go after Carfax for a discrepancy, which is a pain in the ass all its own. Your only option would've been to pursue a diminished value claim after the report was filed, essentially covering the gap between clean title value and accident damaged value. Since the car is less than 5 years old this would've been viable.

Other than that you're just going to have to suck it up and take less for the car.

Exactly what happened to me.

Fuck CarFax.

Fuck that cunt that filed a fucking report for a piece of bent sheet metal and scuff on some plastic. All repairable items worth less than $20 and 15 minutes of your time on a weekend.

SOL KASKYKYKYKYKYYYYYYY

 

[Lead Pipe]

Sweet, looks like we're trading in the truck and I'll be driving this shit box for a while.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

All cosmetic damage and no repairs nor insurance payout ever took place except rubbing compound and some elbow grease.

"ACCIDENT: FRONT IMPACT - LEFT AND RIGHT" Nope, your truck is worthless.

Should've just kept that fucking thing.

 

[Lead Pipe]

Which one was that?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

My first braaaptor.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Any thought on just selling outright? I know that takes some time, but... Yes, you won't get as much there for the same reason, but you might end up getting roughly the same amount as what the dealer would've given you on a clean trade....

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Don't forget the tax savings of trading it in vs private sale. Add a couple thousand over trade in price at the very least.

 

[TCG Member 5219]

Unfortunately they will give you less on trade in. I've been fighting State Farm for a diminished value claim for over two months now and I'm getting nowhere with it. I was in an accident driving my dad's 2016 Chrysler 200. After multiple appraisals, we're told the car is worth between $3,000 to $6,000 less with a collision listed on the Carfax.

You are going to have to sue them in small claims court. State Farm is the worst. They will never settle unless its for pennies on the dollar. I called a guy I found online that does these for people for a small fee, and he said he wont even do them for State Farm cases.

Good luck

 

[The Beast]

Exactly what happened to me.

Fuck CarFax.

Fuck that cunt that filed a fucking report for a piece of bent sheet metal and scuff on some plastic. All repairable items worth less than $20 and 15 minutes of your time on a weekend.

SOL KASKYKYKYKYKYYYYYYY

Carfax and auto check should have a spot for how much was the repair was for. period the end

 

[IZZy]

Sounds like it's a all a scam between carfax and dealerships to make more money on trade ins

 

[PANDA]

Carfax is absolutely worthless for accidents.

 

[The Beast]

Sounds like it's a all a scam between carfax and dealerships to make more money on trade ins

dealers don't want cars with an accident report because they are harder to sell. customers have a hard enough time believing dealerships already do u think if you saw a bad Carfax on a vehicle u were trying to buy would u believe it was just a sctrach? naw

 

[PANDA]

If I ever get in a accident I hope my car is totaled. Otherwise it is probably worth AT LEAST 25% less.

 

[Lead Pipe]

The dealership can go fuck an ass if they think the car is worth 25% less because of a no damage accident. I will sue the asshole that filed the police report for diminished value before I take $5,000 off the value of the car. Everyday there are hundreds of thousands of cars in fender benders, I don't see these 75% market value deals on car lots.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Carfax is absolutely worthless for accidents.

kinda related

gonna be selling a pickup truck we have.

has this on the carfax:

it was never in an accident.

the front right fender was replaced due to some rust starting at the bottom of it because ford used this weird sound deadening shit behind it.

so... not damaged at all. just a fender replaced.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Exactly what happened to me.

Fuck CarFax.

Fuck that cunt that filed a fucking report for a piece of bent sheet metal and scuff on some plastic. All repairable items worth less than $20 and 15 minutes of your time on a weekend.

SOL KASKYKYKYKYKYYYYYYY

oh hey.

fuck that cunt and fuck carfax

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

kinda related

gonna be selling a pickup truck we have.

has this on the carfax:

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it was never in an accident.

the front right fender was replaced due to some rust starting at the bottom of it because ford used this weird sound deadening shit behind it.

so... not damaged at all. just a fender replaced.

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Welp, just bring it to the scrapyard where it belongs with that horrible carfax

 

[Yaj Yak]

Welp, just bring it to the scrapyard where it belongs with that horrible carfax

I'm disputing it.

I disputed number of owners on my 5 series on autocheck back in the day and got it changed so im gonna try to dispute carfax.

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

I'm disputing it.

I disputed number of owners on my 5 series on autocheck back in the day and got it changed so im gonna try to dispute carfax.

 

[Yaj Yak]

it's the only damage listed on the super clean carfax with a super intense carfax, so yeah. i'll karen about it .

 

[Yaj Yak]

god im gonna dispute number of owners on this as well