Theoretically speaking.. what would happen?

[SaturdaysGS]

Theoretically speaking, if you bought a car that was already modded (lowering springs, painted misc. items, 3"dp w/cat, Autolite 104s, K&N panel, Magnaflow exhaust), bought a (Ford ESP) warranty (one step below the best coverage, 2 above the lowest coverage), and notice that the only thing the warranty states about not covering/voiding the warranty is if an "aftermarket supercharger/turbocharger is added", would they cover the trans if it took a dump?

How about with headers, and a cam?

Is it one of those, you have to find a cool dealer, or...?? I mean, they know they sold a modified car.. I suppose having a louder (and better sounding exhaust), as well as a lope, they will know that something "isnt quite right". Could they prove that it was modified more, or are they sort of screwed?


Cliffnotes: Dealer sells modded car, sells warranty for car, car gets modded more, trans takes a dump, does dealer cover it?


This is all theoretically speaking, I wouldnt want to chance voiding the warranty at all.. my buddy was just wondering.

-Nick

P.S. The supercharger would still have the stock pulley on it.

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[Mook]

well visually you can see aftermarket headers and if theres a cam, any tech with half a brain can pick up on it. i'm assuming you're referring to either a cobra or lightning? i'm pretty sure you'd get screwed in the end if the tranny took a crap. they'll point to the mod list and say it was caused by user error

you COULD find a cool dealer that would help you out but its few and far between

edit: did u actually mean a gtp?

 

[syP]

they will notice it


about the only thing you can do and get away with it is a 3.5" press on pulley

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Theres no doubt they will notice headers, but my point is that, the warranty is good at ANY Ford dealer, and they (Ford) sold a (Albeit slightly) modified car, and a warranty for it.

its for a GTP.

 

[Fish]

A cam can be hidden with higher idle. Headers will be seen but some will and some wont blame headers. Dont goto Elgin Pontiac. They will blame tstats if they have to. LOL. Swear to god. Tried to blame that on my friends tranny.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

they cant void your warranty for adding aftermarket parts unless they can prove that the aftermarket part caused the problem.

i.e. if you had a supercharger added and your trans blew, can they prove a supercharger blew a trans? probably not, therefore it is the law to cover the transmission.

another dealer i know said they would install nitrious on my car (my car is an 07 with warranty) the only thing the service manager said was if i blew my motor due to nitrious, it wouldnt be covered but say my alternator went out or my trans is going bad, he said yep no problem due to the fact they cant prove it therefore it is covered.

also a dealership just cant void a whole warranty, they can void parts of it due to your fault or aftermarket parts (blown motor due to nitirous, nomore motor warranty.

MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT

read that it says everything about it

 

[Mook]

you'd be surprised the kind of shit dealers pull. just be happy you dont own an evo. mitsu voids all kinds of shit for having mods on your car

 

[egkido]

True that mits does void all knids of shit!!! But i think that if u can prove that the trans was at fault and it had nothing to do with driver (not likely!!). Then u might be able to get away with it but the way people are now adays with warranties!!! Dealerships are starting to void warranties for every thing!!! Just like Evo's!

 

[bluzohh6]

There is one rule of thumb, when it comes to warranty, the dealership can come up with any excuse to not warranty a part. I have been screwed by acura for this when I had a bone stock type r. So when it comes to warranty nothing is standard and it is ALL left up to the discretion of the dealership.

 

[SRT41320]

ive had my neon in for warranty a few times and they always said unless they can prove the mods caused it then its covered under warranty - i think it really depends on the dealership - just go in there and ask before they do the work if they think it would be covered

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

The whole "they have to prove your mods caused the damage" thing is their word against yours. Unless you are a mechanic by profession with some sort of credibility, i.e. ase certified which doesnt mean shit, I highly doubt you can prove them wrong. Once the dealer "determines" that the mods are the cause of damage, its pretty much game over.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

So... wouldnt said person have a basis for an argument since they were sold said car already modified (lets leave the headers and cam out of this question, just the mods that were on it, when purchased), and were also sold a warranty which is supposed to cover.... whatever repair?

 

[syP]

The whole "they have to prove your mods caused the damage" thing is their word against yours. Unless you are a mechanic by profession with some sort of credibility, i.e. ase certified which doesnt mean shit, I highly doubt you can prove them wrong. Once the dealer "determines" that the mods are the cause of damage, its pretty much game over.

magnusson moss act.


its true.

 

[Mook]

might be true, but its not always followed

 

[syP]

call gm hq about it then.


they are good at dealing with their customers.