Swap questions

[Charlie_Boy7]

How difficult is it to find a LS1 fbody donor than I can get most of what I need off of it?
And even with having a donor car with most of the parts I'll need.. how long would a swap take with 2 people doing the labor?

This will determine when I do the swap on the bird. I'll most likely be moving around April-ish and didn't want to start a big project that would be an issue with the move.

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[serb82]

Lots of time, never goes easy....unless u gonna hack it up, what all you plan on swapping?

 

[Charlie_Boy7]

Ah crap. I wanted to get rid of the 3.4v6 and go LS1

 

[1quick]

If you plan it out well and find someone who has done something like that before it wouldn't be as bad

 

[Yaj Yak]

for how cheap ls1 f-bodys have gotten... i'd probably just try to save myself the hassle and buy one of them...

 

[Bru]

GM high tech performance did a whole how-to on 6 to 8 swap. Very detailed with pricing and everything.

 

[Charlie_Boy7]

If you plan it out well and find someone who has done something like that before it wouldn't be as bad

Yea I've seen some nice ones around about 4500-5500. Thing is I don't want to get rid of this Firebird and also (besides tax time) I don't think I've ever had that much to blow on a car all at once

 

[Bru]

Found it

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/tech/lsx_engine/ghtp_1302_the_big_swap_ls_engine/

 

[daturbosix]

for how cheap ls1 f-bodys have gotten... i'd probably just try to save myself the hassle and buy one of them...

yup, he should just buy my car.

 

[willizm]

for how cheap ls1 f-bodys have gotten... i'd probably just try to save myself the hassle and buy one of them...

This, unless you plan on putting a forged 6.0, head/cam/intake setup in there, or something substantial i'd just look into selling it and picking up and ls1 car.

 

[Charlie_Boy7]

I'll also add that mine needs a trans sooner than later, and a right rear axle. I don't think it would sell for much. Which is why I was leaning towards swap. Like if I'm gonna have to fix it anyway... ya know?

 

[Yaj Yak]

that makes less sense to me then actually. id rather buy one where everyhting is good to go than piecemeal one back together.

 

[Pewter-Camaro]

Its not a simple quick swap at all. Basically you will have to completely tear down and replace almost the entire car. Engine, trans, cooling system, K member, steering parts, exhaust, wiring it all up. Also since that is 3.4l V6 it will have a stupid 2 piece fragile as shit Driveshaft and an open 3.08 rearend that would need to be replaced as well. It would only be worth it if you were going Racecar.

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

v8 aveo?!?

fawkin sweet!

dooo eeet

 

[Charlie_Boy7]

Its not a simple quick swap at all. Basically you will have to completely tear down and replace almost the entire car. Engine, trans, cooling system, K member, steering parts, exhaust, wiring it all up. Also since that is 3.4l V6 it will have a stupid 2 piece fragile as shit Driveshaft and an open 3.08 rearend that would need to be replaced as well. It would only be worth it if you were going Racecar.

People have made it seem really simple online.. thats why I come back to here for the answers without the b.s.

If that's the case, with the move cutting into project time, I'll fix the 6 and save for a badass 2nd gen or LS1 4th gen

 

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

It still would be cool to pay V6 insurance. Why not get an lt1 car if ur on a budget?

 

[Charlie_Boy7]

It still would be cool to pay V6 insurance. Why not get an lt1 car if ur on a budget?

Nothing against LT1s either. I was thinking if I went Ls1 from the beginning then I wouldn't feel like I'm missing out on anything

 

[Pewter-Camaro]

People have made it seem really simple online.. thats why I come back to here for the answers without the b.s.

If that's the case, with the move cutting into project time, I'll fix the 6 and save for a badass 2nd gen or LS1 4th gen

All engine swaps are a complicated matter. They make is sound easy online because in truth it is easier than most swaps because it is almost all bolt in. Bolt in or not though... Its still basically rebuilding an almost complete car.

Also on the insurance break for the v6 vs v8... When I went from a 3.4l v6 to an LS1 my insurance went up like $9 a month. Call your insurance and ask them. I bet the increase in cost will be only a few bucks a month as well.