📰 Auto News Ford, GM considering joint engine development

[Mook]

In a move that will help both ailing automakers, General Motors and Ford are holding discussions about sharing engine and powertrain technologies. Although neither company will officially acknowledge the liaisons, the meetings have been going on for more than a month, according to sources. Engine and powertrain development costs are significant -- an entirely new engine could cost $1 billion, while a transmission could cost upwards of $800 million -- so splitting those costs offers substantial savings to both companies. In addition to the financial incentives, technology sharing would open doors that otherwise would have remained shut (e.g., GM sharing Volt technology with Ford). This wouldn't be the first time the two competitors have climbed in the sack together... years ago, they successfully partnered on a six-speed automatic transmission that is widely used by both companies today.

This rumor definitely makes for a fun what-if game. If these discussions bear fruit, what engines would you like shared across the aisle? A Vortech V8-powered F-150 or an LS9 Mustang GT500? How about a Malibu powered by a twin-turbo DI Ecoboost V6?

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[Burtonrider10022]

good for ford, i dont see how this will help GM

 

[Fish]

Id love to see what kind of interesting stuff they could do.

 

[highpsi]

good for ford, i dont see how this will help GM

:mb:

The last effort proved beneficial to both companies:

http://wardsauto.com/ar/ford_gm_automatic/

 

[Bru]

good for ford, i dont see how this will help GM

Ford's upcoming Ecoboost tech?

That six-speed auto is a damn good trans, too.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

 

[Fish]

:mb:

The last effort proved beneficial to both companies:

http://wardsauto.com/ar/ford_gm_automatic/

For the past four years, they have enjoyed two annual get-togethers: a golf tournament and a bowling tournament.

However, neither Vargo nor Krishnaswami can explain why GM engineers always prevail at golf and the Ford engineers dominate in bowling.

 

[Boreas]

I hope its more GM giving stuff to Ford than the other way around. I dont want my future GM car to pop a transmission every 50 k or having metal door handles bust off.

 

[Fish]

Considering the title of the thread is engine development, I dont see them sharing door handle technology. Im sure there will be some crazy zechotech engine or another small cubed F/I engine come from them.

 

[blakbearddelite]

I figured the Ford bashing would begin by at least the 3rd or 4th post, but the 2nd! Congrats!!!

 

[Euro]

ooooo a 3.6 DOHC and the 6 speed in the Fusion. That I would get...

 

[NetChemica]

All the ignorance in this thread is hilarious. It's more ironic than anything really.

 

[Fish]

All the ignorance in this thread is hilarious. It's more ironic than anything really.

All?? There was only 2 guys saying anything. That is a decline that IMO is a decent one.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

sooo..........if i tell someone to fuck off where this thread goin? or does that only apply to general discussion?

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

i dont see this getting up to the flagship cars ever. are you really gonna care if your saturn has a ford engine or your focus has an ecotec? i think not...

netchemica you come into threads looking for a fight. get a damn life.

 

[Stink Star]

All the ignorance in this thread is hilarious. It's more ironic than anything really.

you are the #1 GM hater/ ford nutswinger here, so what makes you so much fuckin better than everybody here that doesnt prefer fords?

 

[slowchevy]

I hope its more GM giving stuff to Ford than the other way around. I dont want my future GM car to pop a transmission every 50 k or having metal door handles bust off.

What an ignorant ass statement. Have you ever personally owned a ford? If not, keep your "opinion" to yourself..

I hate fords, but I highly doubt you've ever owned one.. you're more than likely solely going on what other people say.

 

[CamaroSS]

I figured the Ford bashing would begin by at least the 3rd or 4th post, but the 2nd! Congrats!!!

:gtfo2: ford boy!!!!!
































j/k :hug:

 

[slowchevy]

BTW, My grandmother has had a 1993 Ford Taurus since new, and has approaching 200K Miles IIRC.. And has had no problems with anything. Only minor repairs that were wear and tear, or exterior issues (Someone backed into her)

 

[Angus]

we've got an 02 sable with the duratec and it's got major front suspension problems and a bad oil leak at 95k... not too bad I guess...

my 98 regal had way more problems than that... thanks god that's gone...

 

[Boreas]

I should take back what I said earlier, I had meant it to be a lighthearted jab and not a bash on Ford. My bad.

 

[Euro]

Every newer Ford I've been in/driven I have been very dissatisfied. My friend has a 98 Taurus with only 130k on it and the trans is takin a shit for the second time. My neighbors had a late 90's Windstar that went thru 3 motors and 2 trans' in the 3ish years they had it.

Ford quality isn't Job #1 IMO.....

 

[Bru]

Every newer Ford I've been in/driven I have been very dissatisfied. My friend has a 98 Taurus with only 130k on it and the trans is takin a shit for the second time. My neighbors had a late 90's Windstar that went thru 3 motors and 2 trans' in the 3ish years they had it.

Ford quality isn't Job #1 IMO.....

A lot has happened in 10 years, dude. But it is hard to get rid of that negative perception because those cars are, in fact, pieces of shit. They shouldn't be compared to the new cars, though, because they have zero similarities.

All of the domestics are dealing with that image problem, though.

 

[Euro]

A lot has happened in 10 years, dude. But it is hard to get rid of that negative perception because those cars are, in fact, pieces of shit. They shouldn't be compared to the new cars, though, because they have zero similarities.

All of the domestics are dealing with that image problem, though.

I know things change over the last 10 years as far as automotive quality(in some cases at least..) but even the new 07/08 Fords I've been in I wasn't impressed.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

all i know is my 89 aerostar was the shit..... the tailshaft leaked so bad i had to add a quart of tranny fluid every week. i knew it was low when it slipped and then went BAM into gear. replaced the seal and tranny was perfect....with 280K on the clock. the body pretty much rotted off.