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because SUVs made by other companies dont have a high rollover rate, only Toyota SUVs rollover. :roflpicard:

MUST get people back in those government owned SUVs that never roll over!!


Consumer Reports has issued a safety warning on Toyota's 2010 Lexus GX 460 SUV because of an increased rollover risk during a turn.

The magazine says it uncovered the problem during routine tests, and is urging car shoppers not to buy the GX 460 until this problem has been remedied.

The special designation given to the GX 460 by Consumer Reports -- "Don't Buy: Safety Risk" -- is rarely given by the magazine. The last time it was used was in 2001, on the Mitsubishi Montero Limited.

"We're concerned with the results," said Toyota in a statement, adding that the company will try to duplicate Consumer Reports' test "to determine if appropriate steps need to taken."

About 5,000 GX 460s have been sold in the roughly three months the model has been on sale, the magazine said. It advises current owners of this vehicle to approach exit ramps with caution, and to call Toyota demanding a fix for the problem.

Toyota said the GX 460 "meets or exceeds all federal government testing requirements."

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The SUV's electronic stability control program failed to keep the vehicle in line during a severe handling maneuver, allowing it to slide almost completely sideways, said Douglas Love, Consumer Reports spokesman. That situation could lead to a rollover, Love said.

Electronic stability control (ESC) is a computerized system that controls the brakes and accelerator to help maintain vehicle control in abrupt maneuvers.

The problem with the Lexus' ESC system became apparent during tests designed to detect a specific emergency handling problem -- one in which a vehicle's back end slides outward when the driver lifts his foot from the gas pedal during a turn. The GX's ESC system did not become active until the SUV had already skidded dangerously, Love said.

The test mimics a driver's typical response to encountering an obstacle in the midst of a turn or to finding a turn to be unexpectedly tight.


http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/13/autos/consumer_reports_lexus_gx460/index.htm?hpt=T2
 

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because SUVs made by other companies dont have a high rollover rate, only Toyota SUVs rollover. :roflpicard:

MUST get people back in those government owned SUVs that never roll over!!

you are ridicules. any time anyone says one bad thing about a Jap company you flip your shit. They are saying these Toyotas have a high turn over rate for SUVs. It's not like they are saying GM/Fords are better they are just saying don't buy this one car from this one company.
 

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here are the 10 best cars according to Consumer Reports
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/autos/1002/gallery.consumer_reports_top_picks/index.html

Best overall: Lexus 460L
Family Sedan: Nissan Altima
Small sedan: Hyundai Elantra SE
Sporty car: Volkswagen GTI
Small SUV: Subaru Forester
Family SUV: Chevrolet Traverse
Green car: Toyota Prius
Sports sedan: Infiniti G37
Family hauler: Mazda5
Pickup: Chevrolet Silverado

Clearly Consumer Reports isn't trying to get people to buy Government Motors cars. only 2/10 of their top cars were American.
 

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you are ridicules. any time anyone says one bad thing about a Jap company you flip your shit. They are saying these Toyotas have a high turn over rate for SUVs. It's not like they are saying GM/Fords are better they are just saying don't buy this one car from this one company.

When the Ford Explorer had their rollover fiasco did they go out and tell people not to buy them? Toyota is already in deep shit, and they just keep fueling the fire. Im not doubting the problems Toyota is facing and Im not really a huge fan of Toyotas, all im saying this is too much of a coincidence and I find it way too ironic.

Most if not all SUVs have a higher rollover rate than cars, its not something we learned yesterday. Rollovers are normally caused by driver error, and in this case people taking turns too fast and/or incorrect manuvering. People need to slow down and remember what they are driving.

SUVs should IMHO require a special license to operate. I think once we have more 'trained' drivers (which will never happen), I garauntee the amount of rollovers will drop.
 

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When the Ford Explorer had their rollover fiasco did they go out and tell people not to buy them?

Consumer Reports did worn people that Bronco II and Explorers were more prone to rollovers. Part of the problem with that car was the tires.

http://www.fordexplorerrollover.com/history/Default.cfm
June 1989 : Consumer Reports article tells consumers they should "avoid" the Bronco II.

You just like to bash Obama and GM when ever you can. Stop being such a conspiracy nut.
 

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When the Ford Explorer had their rollover fiasco did they go out and tell people not to buy them? Toyota is already in deep shit, and they just keep fueling the fire. Im not doubting the problems Toyota is facing and Im not really a huge fan of Toyotas, all im saying this is too much of a coincidence and I find it way too ironic.

Most if not all SUVs have a higher rollover rate than cars, its not something we learned yesterday. Rollovers are normally caused by driver error, and in this case people taking turns too fast and/or incorrect manuvering. People need to slow down and remember what they are driving.

SUVs should IMHO require a special license to operate. I think once we have more 'trained' drivers (which will never happen), I garauntee the amount of rollovers will drop.

There is clearly something wrong with that vehicle. If you've ever driven a Lexus SUV, you know that the VSC intrudes very early. It seems like Toyota has a lot of electrical gremlins that they aren't talking about.
 

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Their problem isn't throttle induced oversteer...it's lift Throttle oversteer. It's cool stuff; basically you're accelerating in a turn then lift off the throttle and it creates oversteer. To correct it you get back on the throttle. I knew it worked on most fwd cars but didn't think it would work on a giant suv :rofl:
 
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