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Old 02-27-2009, 03:10 AM   #1
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It's amazing what you find sitting out the front of Holden's Port Melbourne headquarters
Our eagled-eyed Editor-in-Chief spotted this Pontiac G8 sitting outside Holden head office looking ready to tackle US crooks. The left-hand drive G8 was painted in the colours of the Los Angeles Police Department and it certainly captured our interest.

It turns out the car is the work of a Melbourne company, National Safety Agency, that specialises in innovative technology development for emergency services operations around the world.

The L.A.P.D. Pontiac is a prototype designed to showcase the technology the company has been working on over the past two years for both Australian and international agencies. It will be demonstrated to senior members of the L.A.P.D. on Monday in Sydney after being on display at next week's APOC (Association of Public Safety Communication Officials) conference.

National Safety Agency (NSA) director Des Bahr told the Carsales Network that the Pontiac employs several new features specially designed to improve officer safety, efficiency and reduce cost. The most notable is the police computer screen being molded directly into the dashboard. The company was able to integrate many of the separate technologies used by law enforcement agencies into the single platform.

"We've created a virtual police station on wheels," Bahr says.

Much of the work on the Pontiac was also used on the company's Emergency Services Concept Vehicle. It is a Holden Commodore designed and built to a national standard, unlike current law enforcement vehicles that conform to individual state requirements. NSA has worked with Holden for over two years on the project.

"We wrote to every manufacturer in Australia," Bahr says. "They all wanted to observe [the project] but Holden said they wanted to participate."

The potential for both NSA and Holden is huge. It is believed American law enforcement agencies currently have approximately 80,000 Ford Crown Victoria sedans on fleet but the aging car is due to be phased out next year.

Most forces require V8-powered rear-wheel drive sedans and the Dodge Charger has been adopted by some police forces in America, but Bahr believes the Pontiac represents a safer and better-equipped option.

"If we were able to tap into that market the opportunities are huge for any manufacturer," Bahr says.

In addition to the L.A.P.D. Bahr says the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as well as agencies in the UK and around the world, have shown interest in the prototypes.
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I wonder how much bearing this will have on Pontiac staying alive?
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that is a million times better than the Impala police cars. They NEED to make it AWD tho! there is no police package car that is AWD for these shitty winters...
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I wonder how much bearing this will have on Pontiac staying alive?
If the G8 can steal sales from the PD I'm sure it wouldn't hurt. I bet the Vic is cheaper, though, and I'm sure most departments are on a tight budget this year anyways.
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that is a million times better than the Impala police cars. They NEED to make it AWD tho! there is no police package car that is AWD for these shitty winters...
Many villages have Tahoes I see cruising around but agreed, they need to all be AWD
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They don't need to be AWD. Police have been using RWD cars for the last 80+ years I'm sure they can manage..
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Look at CPD, they didnt even spend the money for 4x4 on their tahoes. RWD ftw
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Yeah but CPD spent enough money on those Tahoes.... They don't need to spend anymore... Besides the officers would jack them up doing stupid shit...
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Yeah but CPD spent enough money on those Tahoes.... They don't need to spend anymore... Besides the officers would jack them up doing stupid shit...
You mean like busting oil pans on speed bumps? Not like ive seen that one yet... Dont know how to shoot and dont know how to drive.
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Precisely... LOL!
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Speaking of Tahoes, City of Chicago is supposed to be switching its entire fleet of Police Vehicles to Tahoes by the middle of summer.
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Speaking of Tahoes, City of Chicago is supposed to be switching its entire fleet of Police Vehicles to Tahoes by the middle of summer.
Good, than they can't catch our race carz anymore.....
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yikes. now theres a cop car id think twice about running from. only twice tho.
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If the G8 can steal sales from the PD I'm sure it wouldn't hurt. I bet the Vic is cheaper, though, and I'm sure most departments are on a tight budget this year anyways.
crown vics are being phased out.
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crown vics are being phased out.
About f'in time,as its only been on the same platform since Clinton's first term.
The G8 is big,RWD,and has the power to catch whatever the crooks are driving.Dodge's Charger does the same,but Chrysler's in even worse shape than GM longevity wise.
BTW,some muncipalities use different cars in their fleets-Gurnee PD has 2 '07 Impalas,1 evil-lookin Magnum wagon,and maybe 3 Crown Vics.I'd imagine most police agencies are gonna mix up their cars instead of just using one-for-all like the old Caprice vs Crown Vic days.
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gurnee has a lot more than just two impalas.
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you can kinda see the magnum in this pic from a CSS.Net meet I set up in October of '07
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Circuit City eh? That pic must be ANCIENT
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october 6, '07.

it's still there for what its worth. they havent gone outta business yet.
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About f'in time,as its only been on the same platform since Clinton's first term.
The G8 is big,RWD,and has the power to catch whatever the crooks are driving.Dodge's Charger does the same,but Chrysler's in even worse shape than GM longevity wise.
BTW,some muncipalities use different cars in their fleets-Gurnee PD has 2 '07 Impalas,1 evil-lookin Magnum wagon,and maybe 3 Crown Vics.I'd imagine most police agencies are gonna mix up their cars instead of just using one-for-all like the old Caprice vs Crown Vic days.
Try the 70's...

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As of the 2008 model year, it is the oldest vehicle platform in current use in North America. It uses the body-on-frame construction with live rear axle suspension common when it was introduced, but now almost exclusively found in heavy SUVs and trucks. It was introduced in 1978 for the 1979 model year as the response to downsizing of full-size cars from AMC, Chrysler, and GM. As downsizing continued in the 1980s, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick, as well as AMC and Chrysler dropped out of the traditional full-size segment entirely. During trying periods for Ford it was scheduled for cancellation on several occasions, as early as 1985. It has outlasted its GM counterpart, the B-platform which was used for the Chevrolet Caprice and Buick Roadmaster, along with its extended-wheelbase version the D-platform used for Cadillac Fleetwood, until their cancellation in 1996. The durability resulting from the body on frame construction (which allows easier repair after minor collisions), the cars' low price, and their relatively simple design make the Panther cars appealing as fleet vehicles, including police interceptors and taxicabs. The Lincoln Town Car appeals largely to older clients and is the most commonly used limousine in the United States and Canada, due to it's ability to be easily "stretched" by lengthening the frame, without compromising chassis strength. The Panther platform is still in production as of 2008 and is currently committed to production until at least 2011. [1]

The first Panthers were the Ford LTD and Mercury Marquis. Both were available in coupe, wagon, and sedan bodies. In 1980, the Lincoln Continental and the Continental Town Car were introduced on the Panther platform. The following year the Town Car became a model line of its own as the Continental name was applied to the Mark VI for 1981. While Lincoln coupes based on the Panther platform were discontinued in 1983, Ford and Mercury coupes lasted until 1987, and wagons were manufactured until 1991. After that, and an extensive redesign of the Ford and Mercury bodies, only full-size four-door sedans were produced. The Town Car's body was extensively reworked for 1990 and again for 1998.

The Panther platform is currently produced only at Ford's St. Thomas Assembly plant in Canada. Prior to its closure on 31 May 2007, the Wixom Assembly Plant was also a Panther assembly site (Lincoln Town Car). Assembly of the Town Car resumed at the St. Thomas plant in January 2008 following paint shop and other upgrades. Ford says they will continue the platform until at least 2011.
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