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Old 05-13-2019, 05:50 PM   #426
 
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I can see the vape cloud already...
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Back in the day , always wanted an early 80s Celica gts coupe and a Chrysler Conquest TSI . Had flares and nice wheels .

Once the 87 Supra came out the Celica became smaller more aero looking , but still sold . Lots of women bought 90s celicas.
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my mom had a 90's Celica.

There was a Conquest TSI at Supercar Saturday. My buddies and I were talking how we all wanted one of them. But ya, the Celica GTS was a cool car for its time.
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25-40 year old twinks that vape and wear flat brimmed hats
You mean the same queers that wear white frame sunglasses too?

But want a little more excitment than a whopping 200hp offered in the 86?

Toyota may soon have the reputation of having a rwd performance line up full of bastard children.......

The Supra makes 2 so far. Hell maybe some inbred awd Audi will be the next gen Celica......

I mean the little Audi TT could use a bastard sibling dont you think?
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Isn't this car starting at 50k? Probably a little too pricey for the typical twink with a vape box...
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Isn't this car starting at 50k? Probably a little too pricey for the typical twink with a vape box...
Thats why I said 25-40 year old. Most of them grow out of that phase...but some of them stay in it because well...they really are a twink. Most of them are single, so its easy to afford a $50k car.
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is the car bad

or is it just bad because of the name

hard to keep track of who hates it for why, who is probably not in its target market anyway
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Some of the Celica were pretty badass for their time. In design and features. Especially some of the overseas versions that were used in World Rally Champ and similar series.

The Celica was the first production car to use water injection and Anti-lag for spooling. They were available with all wheel drive as well. They were pretty cool in their own right. Again, not like a Supra. But this Supra is lacking what Supra fans wanted. So I think the Celica would have been a better name for what this car ended up being.
This makes sense...this car seems like it's halfway between what a modern celica and supra should be. Closer to the celica than the supra though, that's for sure
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is the car bad

or is it just bad because of the name

hard to keep track of who hates it for why, who is probably not in its target market anyway
Not a bad car. Just a poor use of the name, and it's arguably $5k overpriced.
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If Nissan had brought the GTR back as nothing more than a rebadged g37 with suspension upgrades for $55k....it'd be comparable to this. Hell the HP would even be the same, lol.
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Has the 2020 Supra hate bypassed the SHO hate? Asking for a friend...
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Target market: kids named kyle that have rich dads
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If Nissan had brought the GTR back as nothing more than a rebadged g37 with suspension upgrades for $55k....it'd be comparable to this. Hell the HP would even be the same, lol.
At Least Infiniti has their own platform and engine (3.0T).

I find it funny in all these articles that Toyota clearly is butt hurt that people are calling out that the majority of the vehicle is a rebadged BMW.
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Looks like the 47 more HP in the Z4 comes from more than just tuning

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...mw-z4-engines
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New Supra is looking car

The BMW plaform is not very exciting



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i'm a big bmw fan, but find the supra more appealing than this z4 so far
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Target market: kids named kyle that have rich dads that drive BMW's
Not that your quote wasn't perfect, I just had to make it perfecter.
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Those numbers aren't terrible.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...on-zero-to-60
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The “as tested” price though of 57k...... that’s the bad number
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But what will they actually sell for? I am sure after the initial hype dies down they will be discounted like all cars. So will a $57k sticker sell for $54K, $50K, less?
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a driver's car than can post a 0-60 of 3.8 and 1/4 of 12.3, oh noes so terrible?

i can understand the missed expectations of people looking for a halo gtr.

but i also can totally understand going a more attainable route. my ass is too cheap to buy either, but i'm sure the one i may consider buying first down the line is the pupra.

the greatest tcg track day ever would be one where everyone who whines about this car's power does some hot laps in an NA miata and miraculously discovers they really don't quite know how to handle 115 in the first place.
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They aren't bad numbers....for a sports car with a low $40's price....
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I’m impressed with those #’s actually. So it costs a little more thanks to the “supra name” tax...whatevs.
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It cost more than people want it to cost because it's a BMW. Hahaha
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