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Old 05-25-2018, 11:46 AM   #1
 
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Default Viper to return in 2021 (maybe)

With a rumored aluminum V8 making 500+. 700+ supercharged version will arrive later. Manual standard.

New Dodge Viper Allegedly Coming With 550 HP V8 AutoGuide.com News
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No V10, no Viper. Fuck that.

Also, good to know I'll never be able to afford a new Viper ever because this is going to cause the latest model to skyrocket in price, ala Ford GT style.
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Itll be out before the 2037 GT500 at this rate
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It should be a TT V10........
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Going to be hard to compete with a mid engine Vette.
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The truth is time's moved on from the V10 which if I remember correctly is based off the old LA stuff. A modern equivalent would be a Hemi V10, but I'm not sure how that would do with things like space and weight. That said such an engine would likely be interesting with boost as a Veyron competitor e.g. well over 4 digit HP.
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Screw all that noise put the Demon engine in a car that doesnt weigh metric fuckton!
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Going to be hard to compete with a mid engine Vette.
Nah, the Vette will drop a valve in the burn out box
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I have been saying this for years. The Viper needs to evolve. A nose heavy, twitchy race car will not sell well. They need to refine the platform and make a more traditional car. Like I said on the F150 thread, FCA is supposedly developing a 7 litre V8.
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Nose heavy twitchy car? How many track records did the last gen Viper set?

if any Dodge product needs to evole its the dinosaur platform the Challenger and Charger is on!!
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Nah, the Vette will drop a valve in the burn out box
Nope because it wont be pushrod. DOHC
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Nose heavy twitchy car? How many track records did the last gen Viper set?
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New concept drawing. Kind of looks like a GT-R.


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No way that's real. Is that from the 80s?
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Oh. Troll face. Damnit.
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I have been saying this for years. The Viper needs to evolve. A nose heavy, twitchy race car will not sell well. They need to refine the platform and make a more traditional car. Like I said on the F150 thread, FCA is supposedly developing a 7 litre V8.
Yes, the Viper did have a MASSIVE engine up front.

However, the ENTIRE massive engine was located behind the front wheels, making it a Mid-Front engined car with a near 50/50 weight distribution.

And Also. No V10, no care.
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Needs a 12 liter V10.....
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at least it wont have a turbo V6, or hybrid power. And good on them for keeping the manual trans.
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Yes, the Viper did have a MASSIVE engine up front.

However, the ENTIRE massive engine was located behind the front wheels, making it a Mid-Front engined car with a near 50/50 weight distribution.

And Also. No V10, no care.
Biggest complaint with the car from consumers was that on the edge it was very difficult to control. Could a professional driver get crazy lap time, for sure. An average Joe would put the car in a wall. Plus it rides like shit and is as comfortable as a pace bus.
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No V10? The exhaust automatically sounds better.
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I’m ok with it being a V8 and sounding better
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Biggest complaint with the car from consumers was that on the edge it was very difficult to control. Could a professional driver get crazy lap time, for sure. An average Joe would put the car in a wall. Plus it rides like shit and is as comfortable as a pace bus.
So youve drove one. And put one into a wall Mr Average Joe. And you personally have complained it was difficult to control? I highly doubt its anything like a bus either.

Otherwise I just smell alot of talking out your ass and hatin on the Viper.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roa...track-records

When you think of the ultimate street-legal race car, you probably think of the McLaren P1, Porsche 918, or the Ferrari LaFerrari. Unfortunately, if your definition of "ultimate" involves putting down the fastest possible lap time at a track, you'd probably be wrong to pick any of those three.

Yep, on tracks like Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, and Virginia International Raceway, if you want to set the fastest time, you'll need to be driving something a bit more American—a Dodge Viper ACR. According to FCA, the Dodge Viper ACR holds the lap record not just at those three tracks but at 10 more, as well.


"The SCCA has certified that the new 2016 Dodge Viper ACR holds more track records than any other production car in the world,"


No big deal just a nose heavy twitchy racecar........

And again @Lead Pipe makes himself look like a clown.
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Yes, the Viper did have a MASSIVE engine up front.

However, the ENTIRE massive engine was located behind the front wheels, making it a Mid-Front engined car with a near 50/50 weight distribution.
If anyone has ever looked under or worked on a Viper you can easily see it was a race car for the street. Tube frame chassis, double wishbone suspension, and so on. Could it use some improvements? I'm sure. Just like any other production vehicle. But you were getting a very capable car that you could tweak to your personal driving style and needs.

I am far from a Viper fan. But I can appreciate it for what it is.



The purists are going to hate a v8. Especially one that is shared throughout the companies model lines. But that doesn't mean it will be a bad choice for the car. People complained about the Ford GT getting an Ecoboost motor instead of a v8. But I don't gear their owners complaining a whole lot about the lack of a v8. lol

Bring the Viper back. We could use more domestic sports cars.
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https://www.scca.com/articles/199848...ck-record-king

The following chart shows a summary of lap records set to date – in reverse chronological order:

Track/Configuration

Track Length (miles)

ACR Record Lap (Elapsed time)

Date

Driver

Laguna Seca; Salinas, Calif.

2.24

1:28.65

10/28/15

R. Pobst

Road Atlanta; Braselton, Ga.

2.54

1:26.54

10/11/15

C. Winkler

Waterford Hills; Waterford, Mich.

1.42

1:10.89

9/30/15

C. Winkler

Nelson Ledges; Garrettsville, Ohio

2.00

1:06.21

9/21/15

C. Winkler

Motown Mile; Detroit, Mich.

1.10

51:17

8/28/15

C. Winkler

GingerMan Raceway; South Haven, Mich. / Extended Length

2.14

1:31.91

8/27/15

C. Winkler

Pittsburgh International Race Complex; New Alexandria, Pa. / North Track

1.53

58.37

8/18/15

C. Winkler

Grattan Raceway; Belding, Mich.

2.00

1:22.09

5/19/15

C. Winkler

Virginia International Raceway; Alton, Va. / Grand Course

4.20

2:40.02

4/23/15

C. Winkler

Willow Springs Raceway; Rosamond, Calif. / Big Willow

2.50

1:21.24

4/2/15

C. Winkler

MotorSport Ranch; Cresson, Texas

1.70

1:16.98

2/25/15

T. Kendall

Buttonwillow Raceway Park; Buttonwillow, Calif.

2.68

1:47.70

1/21/15

C. Winkler

Inde Motorsports Ranch; Wilcox, Ariz. / Configuration 4

2.20

1:33.75

11/19/14

C. Winkler
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