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Kensington 01-30-2018 03:00 PM

There May Be A Ford Explorer ST Coming Too: Report
 
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Alright, so, Fordís performance-oriented ST lineup is admittedly a little thin. But thatís fine, because Ford is going to give us an Edge ST and also, possibly, an Explorer ST, too. Nothing screams fun like performance crossovers and SUVs, I always say.

Ford will pluck the 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6 that currently lives in the Lincoln Continental and MKZ and stuff it into the 2020 Explorer ST, according to The Truth About Cars, which sites unnamed sources. That engine currently makes 400 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque, but TTAC expects an increase in power in the ST version.

Additionally, TTAC has also reported that the Explorer could go rear-drive, so if both of these things actually materialize in the next-gen model, Iíd actually be a very happy camper indeed. A 400-plus HP rear-driven SUV? Thatíd be pretty badass. Iím not holding my breath for a manual option, though. Life isnít that good. Likely what will happen is that the Explorer ST will get Fordís 10-speed automatic.

But can you imagine getting chased down the highway by a police Explorer ST? Itíd almost be worth it to see police camped out on the sides of highways to get a glimpse of the new police vehicles.

When TTAC tapped Ford for comment, a spokesperson responded that they donít speculate about future products.





@jason05gt @Ryan02Stang see bold :noes:

https://jalopnik.com/there-might-be-...ort-1822546189

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:01 PM

Also, I'm really doubting the Exploder will go back to RWD. The chassis is completely FWD biased, and would take a complete new chassis or complete chassis overhaul to accomplish.

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:05 PM

Did I call it or what?

boostedguy05 01-30-2018 03:05 PM

were going to have 20 new threads about this, i can feel it.

http://www.thechicagogarage.com/foru...ll-things.html

jason05gt 01-30-2018 03:06 PM

This is a no-brainer, but a lot of the information seems to be far fetched. I don't buy the 3.0 rumor as the current gen has the old version of the 3.5L Ecoboost and the new version makes just as much power, but a lot more torque as compared to the 3.0 TT.

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jason05gt (Post 3704612)
This is a no-brainer, but a lot of the information seems to be far fetched. I don't buy the 3.0 rumor as the current gen has the old version of the 3.5L Ecoboost and the new version makes just as much power, but a lot more torque as compared to the 3.0 TT.

It will be the 3.0...

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...9123/wrong.jpg

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jason05gt (Post 3704612)
This is a no-brainer, but a lot of the information seems to be far fetched. I don't buy the 3.0 rumor as the current gen has the old version of the 3.5L Ecoboost and the new version makes just as much power, but a lot more torque as compared to the 3.0 TT.

The only really issue I see is the rumor of the Explorer going RWD. There's no chance of that.

The current 3.5 is the old gen and "only" makes 355/355 I believe. The article mentioned the Explorer could get a little power bump to Lincoln's 400/400.

Also they haven't put the new generation 3.5 into anything transverse yet. I think the 3.0TT is going to take over for that.

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:13 PM

Exactly. It will be FWD based AWD, new gen 3.5 isn't designed for that. And they aren't going to put the 2.7L in it and go down in HP, and they aren't going to design an engine for one car.

It will be the 3.0L TT at 400hp. Current gen is 365hp.

Thirdgen89GTA 01-30-2018 03:15 PM

I had no idea the current Exploder's were FWD based. I thought they were still framed trucks with a standard RWD layout.

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA (Post 3704623)
I had no idea the current Exploder's were FWD based. I thought they were still framed trucks with a standard RWD layout.

Taurus, Explorer, Flex, Lincoln MKS, Lincoln MKT are all the same FWD platform.

I believe its actually based off a Volvo platform from when they owned Volvo...

jason05gt 01-30-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan02Stang (Post 3704614)

Ford will likely go with the 2.7 lol

The 3.5 is the most logical choice as it's Ford's newest and most powerful EB motor.

I don't believe the RWD packaging either.

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jason05gt (Post 3704628)
Ford will likely go with the 2.7 lol

The 3.5 is the most logical choice as it's Ford's newest and most powerful EB motor.

I don't believe the RWD packaging either.

Bet you $100 it gets the 3.0?

98GrandPrixIraqVet 01-30-2018 03:18 PM

Repost

98GrandPrixIraqVet 01-30-2018 03:19 PM

http://www.thechicagogarage.com/foru...ll-things.html

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:19 PM

Didn't bother to quote the article though :s00ls:

98GrandPrixIraqVet 01-30-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensington (Post 3704636)
Didn't bother to quote the article though :s00ls:

click the link...........

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan02Stang (Post 3704621)
Exactly. It will be FWD based AWD, new gen 3.5 isn't designed for that. And they aren't going to put the 2.7L in it and go down in HP, and they aren't going to design an engine for one car.

It will be the 3.0L TT at 400hp. Current gen is 365hp.

I think all the transverse have 365, but some are rated at 355 for whatever reason.

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet (Post 3704637)
click the link...........

http://mikhila.com/wp-content/upload.../08/lp2ho8.jpg

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason05gt (Post 3704628)
Ford will likely go with the 2.7 lol

The 3.5 is the most logical choice as it's Ford's newest and most powerful EB motor.

I don't believe the RWD packaging either.

2.7TT doesn't make enough power for the proposed Explorer application, the 3.5TT could theoretically be too powerful, the 3.0TT would be the logical inbetween. Would make more power than its predecessor AND theoretically be more efficient.

jason05gt 01-30-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensington (Post 3704618)
The only really issue I see is the rumor of the Explorer going RWD. There's no chance of that.

The current 3.5 is the old gen and "only" makes 355/355 I believe. The article mentioned the Explorer could get a little power bump to Lincoln's 400/400.

Also they haven't put the new generation 3.5 into anything transverse yet. I think the 3.0TT is going to take over for that.

I don't see why the current gen 3.5 EB couldn't work transversely. Maybe the limitation is the transmission capacity in that setup?

boostedguy05 01-30-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet (Post 3704634)

YOU REPOSTED! see post #4

Ryan02Stang 01-30-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensington (Post 3704638)
I think all the transverse have 365, but some are rated at 355 for whatever reason.

The original Lincoln MKS's and MKT's and Ford Flexes were rated at 355 for whatever reason, but then went to 365 in 2013. The SHO and Explorer Sport were always 365.

As far as I know there is no actual difference in HP between them...

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason05gt (Post 3704644)
I don't see why the current gen 3.5 EB couldn't work transversely. Maybe the limitation is the transmission capacity in that setup?

Yeah I'm not sure, but I think it's pretty telling that Ford hasn't put the Gen 2 3.5EB into anything transverse yet. I'm think it's going to stay a RWD only engine, for whatever reason (transmission/PTU strength could very well be the reasoning.) It does make a shit load of torque, even in the lowly F-150 version, it makes 470 torque, compared to the Raptor's 510.

Kensington 01-30-2018 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan02Stang (Post 3704649)
The original Lincoln MKS's and MKT's and Ford Flexes were rated at 355 for whatever reason, but then went to 365 in 2013. The SHO and Explorer Sport were always 365.

As far as I know there is no actual difference in HP between them...

From what I understand they were rated differently, but there's no difference between any of them.

jason05gt 01-30-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensington (Post 3704642)
2.7TT doesn't make enough power for the proposed Explorer application, the 3.5TT could theoretically be too powerful, the 3.0TT would be the logical inbetween. Would make more power than its predecessor AND theoretically be more efficient.

The CD6/D6 platform is rumored to be lighter, so 335hp with more gears in a lighter platform would be plenty.

The current Explorer Sport is a heffer and tuned really soft in my opinion. I wasn't a huge fan when I test drove it compared to the Edge Sport.


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