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Old 12-12-2017, 09:35 AM   #26
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This is cool and all, but I think I'd still rather have a 2003 Mustang Terminator Cobra
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I’ll never understand fords logic for always having the a displacement disadvantage. The coyote and then subsequent roadrunner and voodoo engines seemed like engineering marvels... Just seems like a losing battle to keep stretching the cylinder bore every last bit and then adding enough boost to make 720hp (or whatever target their going for) when both GM and Dodge have essentially the equivalent of 2 extra cylinder of engine displacement.

GT350 wasn’t exactly lightweight for a street legal “track car”. Me thinks a GT500 is gonna be right around 2 tons. O’well, hopefully ford proves me wrong and builds the best of the badass muscle cars yet.
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They all are getting heavy. Even the Vette is getting up there. But look at what the GTR does with it's weight. It is possible that the car may be heavy and still handle well. I think it will be behind the ZL1 though. The Camaro is lighter and seem to have an edge in the handling department. But we will have to see what happens.
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Im thinking they won’t call it a Shelby or a GT500. From a reliable source it’s basically going to be a GT350 on steroids, a super track car. Lighter weight and more Power. Not a straight line car.
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Oh yeah, here are the “supposed” brakes that will be on it. Largest calipers ever put on a Mustang.
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I can't imagine how they can cut weight to make it lighter than a GT350. When adding the blower, extra heat exchangers, larger brakes, and so on. That will be impressive if they can make it happen and not have a huge price tag.
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Oh yeah, here are the “supposed” brakes that will be on it. Largest calipers ever put on a Mustang.
Why does the look fake as fuck?
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Why does the look fake as fuck?
Ford uses a 4.5" lug pattern. Based off that it looks like that rotor is about 17" - 18". Fawking big!


For comparison, the GT350 I believe uses a 15.5" up front and 14.9" out back.
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I agree Mike, not sure where the weight savings will be coming from.
Either way, still an awesome time to be a car enthusiast!

I know you spoke of this Mike but Saw this too.

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Why does the look fake as fuck?
why ? it has a part number from supercharger Mustang KR3V

R3V is the code

03-04 Cobra parts were 2R3V
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Need a non cropped pic. Just looks hugely disproportionate.
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Hopefully Ford will shock everybody and release GT500 with the other engine that was getting tested . They had prototypes running with supercharged 5.2L and twin turbo 4.8L . supercharged GT500 won't be anything special these days when we have supercharged ZL1s , Hellcats and vettes
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Give me GT500 with TTV8 and DCT transmission then I'll be back in the Ford
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Need a non cropped pic. Just looks hugely disproportionate.
Because it truly is huge.

Leave the “That’s what she said” alone.
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I can't imagine how they can cut weight to make it lighter than a GT350. When adding the blower, extra heat exchangers, larger brakes, and so on. That will be impressive if they can make it happen and not have a huge price tag.
Composite engine cradle, radiator support the GT350 already has, composite seat frames, possibly roof skin. There was a thread floating around M6G on the composite k member and seat frames.

Dont think those will be huge savings but it will all help.
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Hopefully Ford will shock everybody and release GT500 with the other engine that was getting tested . They had prototypes running with supercharged 5.2L and twin turbo 4.8L . supercharged GT500 won't be anything special these days when we have supercharged ZL1s , Hellcats and vettes
The 5.2 is smaller than the Hellpig and GM LT4 and LT5.

If they can make 750+ out of a little 5.2 it makes the big pushrod engines loom kind of silly especially if its what at least a liter smaller too.

I have zero faith itll be anything but a sc 5.2 in the GT500
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I’ll never understand fords logic for always having the a displacement disadvantage. The coyote and then subsequent roadrunner and voodoo engines seemed like engineering marvels... Just seems like a losing battle to keep stretching the cylinder bore every last bit and then adding enough boost to make 720hp (or whatever target their going for) when both GM and Dodge have essentially the equivalent of 2 extra cylinder of engine displacement.

GT350 wasn’t exactly lightweight for a street legal “track car”. Me thinks a GT500 is gonna be right around 2 tons. O’well, hopefully ford proves me wrong and builds the best of the badass muscle cars yet.
Power density and weight. I think itll be imlressive but boring lol if Ford makes 750plus from a SC 5.2
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The 5.2 is smaller than the Hellpig and GM LT4 and LT5.

If they can make 750+ out of a little 5.2 it makes the big pushrod engines loom kind of silly especially if its what at least a liter smaller too.

I have zero faith itll be anything but a sc 5.2 in the GT500
Power is not the issue these days as most of these high horsepower cars make similar power , not many people care if you make ~700hp out of supercharged 5.2 or supercharged 6L+ engines . People want something different these days. that's why GT350Rs with flat plat plane crank engine still selling for over MSRP while Camaro Z28s heaving pretty much the same performance as GT350r selling for half the price because not many people want to pay $70K for a Camaro with 15 years old vette engine
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Power is not the issue these days as most of these high horsepower cars make similar power , not many people care if you make ~700hp out of supercharged 5.2 or supercharged 6L+ engines . People want something different these days. that's why GT350Rs with flat plat plane crank engine still selling for over MSRP while Camaro Z28s heaving pretty much the same performance as GT350r selling for half the price because not many people want to pay $70K for a Camaro with 15 years old vette engine
First of all GM price of 70k for a Z28 for a parts bin whore of a car was a scam from day 1 for a 5th gen Camaro.

Seconds yes I agree hp numbers are not everything thats why the use of composites and anything else to make the cars lighter is huge. HP numbers dont mean much if its stuffed in a tank.
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What is this, an @Eagle thread?
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