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Old 06-14-2017, 12:05 PM   #26
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Was it white and how much do you think it weighs?
they are around 4100lbs . car had H/C , methanol injection , boltons, headers, M/T drag radials.
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they are around 4100lbs . car had H/C , methanol injection , boltons, headers, M/T drag radials.
Ok not the one I saw..thanks
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My guess is this didn't really fix shit in the C7 supercharged platform and absolutely made it worse and bad enough to warrant the law suit. The only thing I can think of is they finally made some progress with this '18 ZR1 and obviously time will tell outside of all the other first gen issues that may come up.

That being said, there are a couple good after market companies/engineers that were able to supplement the stock junk cooling design on the ZR1 and probably C7Z to resolve most of the issues but its not cheap.
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I wonder if heat issues are why GM never posted a C7Z Ring time.
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this may be the 2017 change for the IAT2's

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Only the M7 2017 got the upgrades.
From my understanding the Auto got the same upgrades. It just wasn't enough to solve the problem.
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From my understanding the Auto got the same upgrades. It just wasn't enough to solve the problem.
I believe they used the space where the auto trans cooler is located on the A8's (and not on the M7's) to put an additional cooler. Hence the reason the auto couldn't get it due to no space.
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My guess is this didn't really fix shit in the C7 supercharged platform and absolutely made it worse and bad enough to warrant the law suit. The only thing I can think of is they finally made some progress with this '18 ZR1 and obviously time will tell outside of all the other first gen issues that may come up.

That being said, there are a couple good after market companies/engineers that were able to supplement the stock junk cooling design on the ZR1 and probably C7Z to resolve most of the issues but its not cheap.
I don't think its the engine considering the ZL1 Camaro has the same LT4 but the difference is in the COOLERS not the engine.

The ZL1 uses larger coolers in the bumper than the C7Z.
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Ya it was high air temps which was the same issue at c6zr but new issues like overheating trans too.
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I'm still amazed that this was probably ignored in testing.

I'm betting the engineers found the problem and presented it, but the bean counters nixed it. Thinking enough people wouldn't complain.

But the problem is, with a flagship product like this, profit margins aren't that high, so you are better off spending the money per car to fix it, and NOT have the bad press.

Now they have a lawsuit, and its going to dirty the name.
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It really only hurt the people with big enough balls to actually hit the track. Very small chunk of their customer base is my guess. Like single digit %.
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I'm still amazed that this was probably ignored in testing.

I'm betting the engineers found the problem and presented it, but the bean counters nixed it. Thinking enough people wouldn't complain.

But the problem is, with a flagship product like this, profit margins aren't that high, so you are better off spending the money per car to fix it, and NOT have the bad press.

Now they have a lawsuit, and its going to dirty the name.
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It really only hurt the people with big enough balls to actually hit the track. Very small chunk of their customer base is my guess. Like single digit %.
Yep, exactly. This is mostly sold to the Zaino as a personal lubricant show and shine crowd. Driven gentle as a Buick Lesabre.

That said, I agree it doesn't bode well on GM. They've had consistent engine troubles with the last few generations of high end vette like the valve guide issues as well.
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My point is that Ford had to fix the GT350, and it cost them money and development time to do so, even though they already had a "track" package that was optional.

GM didn't offer a Track Pack, but honestly all you need is 1% to complain and you have a sales and PR problem on your hands.

They should have spent the money on fixing the engineering issue with heat, and sold it for a few more dollars.

Its a Halo car, you don't skimp on the halo car, the negative press is not worth it.
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