going intercooled, which cam or rockers????

[98dustingtp]

im buying a full stage intercooler this week, and im trying to decide on a cam or rockers. I still want the car to be a dd so i dont want a big cam or anything, i was thinking vs cam, or s1x, or 1.9rockers. Which one do you guys think i should do?

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[Mike K]

If you don't mind the extra work of a cam the S1x is a great choice. Other than that, rockers are inexpensive and easy. If you're going with a ZZP cam I'd go XP before I'd go VS.

 

[ldyzluvdis06]

If you don't mind the extra work of a cam the S1x is a great choice. Other than that, rockers are inexpensive and easy. If you're going with a ZZP cam I'd go XP before I'd go VS.

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[Ron Vogel]

If you aren't doing and "fringe" mods, on average a rocker/ic car is going to run 12.8 to 13 flat in the 1/4 mile, and a mild cam/IC will run 12.4 to 12.6 in the 1/4 mile. Just be aware these are average, but a decent ballpark. Is the extra expense for the power involved worth it for you?

 

[98dustingtp]

alright well right now im doin 13.6 untuned, im wanting around a high 12. Why not go with a vs cam and why is an s1x extra work.

 

[rocket69GTP]

You will need to throw on a new timing chain or go with a double roller setup along with running 105# springs (at least). Beefing up the valvetrain is a must for a decent cam setup.

 

[Mook]

I ran the stock chain when I had the xp in mine.

 

[rocket69GTP]

^^^You didn't change yours out for a brand new stocker?

 

[Mook]

Nope.

 

[98dustingtp]

with 1.9 rockers dont i have to change some stuff, and is there a difference between 1.9s and 1.95s?? Im most likely leaning towards the rockers, and which ones do you guys prefer to use?? thanks again

 

[Ron Vogel]

with 1.9 rockers dont i have to change some stuff, and is there a difference between 1.9s and 1.95s?? Im most likely leaning towards the rockers, and which ones do you guys prefer to use?? thanks again

Modded stockers, don't bother with a higher lift...total waste...even 1.9 is a little bigger than needed. You can use stock springs on stock modified if they are lower mile springs.

 

[1quick]

I like my s1x, all you need is gaskets cam and 105's and I would atleast put a new timeing chain on they are only like 30 bucks

 

[PANDA]

Ron Vogel knows the deal

 

[10sec]

I'd rather have a cam over rockers. Huge difference IMO. I don't think the numbers are comparable at all, most rocker'd cars run mid high 13's, and most cammed cars are in the high 12's and faster. Cam>rockers. If you do go with rockers, you'll regret the choice soon after. Just like everyone else.

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

inb4TGsays vs>xp

 

[PANDA]

stock shit is always the best

 

[10sec]

Cams are stock, just misfire a bit

 

[Mike K]

A little birdy told me rockers and intercoolers might be on sale this Friday. I shot him for spreading that hearsay.

 

[98dustingtp]

i dont want to regret this so i want to do it right the first time. Looks like everyone is sayin cam so i might be going this route. And mike i emailed you friday with all the intercooler questions, i hope its a nice big sale, because i am buying one friday.

 

[The Broken Regal]

really depends on your budget and goals for the car, what are those?

all 3 are great choices, rockers + IC isnt bad at all for being MUCH cheaper for everything and easier for install/fixing

 

[98dustingtp]

well the intercooler i heard to go full stage cause going ssic you will regret and i want a high 12 low 13 that is reliable.

 

[10sec]

Yeah that's true, the only people that defend the SSIC as being a "good" i/c are the people that bought one. They'll never admit they made a dumb decision so they'll just get pissed defending themselves. If you want high 12's, then rockers would be fine, but you'll need a tune. But you won't want just high 12's, we've all said that. I said that, my user name used to be 12secsomeday, then 11secsomeday, and now as you can see, i still haven't stopped. Just saying.

 

[PANDA]

10sec cant even break out of the 13's his name is a joke

 

[10sec]

13.7@97mph is my PB.

 

[Handsome Jesus]

you also need to realize the extra costs and time involved with a cam. is the motor coming out of the car for the intercooler swap? if not, I'd tend to suggest rockers... just my opinion.

However I definitely believe the cam is a better overall upgrade. Ask Heavykevy how my non-IC/S1x car drove compared to his IC/Rocker setup